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Malicious Software Removal Tool KB890830 - Update 9th July 2008

Automatic updates of Windows software is enable on my XP computers (see below) and today the update of KB890830 was installed.     After the installation I was unable to log-in to any of my ISPs (Windows Explorer8, Firefox and Avant on my Dimension 4500 updated at 7.00am.     I switched-off the system, modem, router and computers and later switched them on again but I was still unable to log-in.    My Dimension 4100 (Windows ME) was uaffected since, as I later found,  KB890830 is not installed on the ME computer.      I then ran System Restore and restored to an earlier date and I was then able to connect both of  the XP computers to the internet.

 

Since I was curious to find out if the latest KB890830 update was the cause of the problem, I updated it manually on the Inspiron (XP) and I was then unable to connect to the internet.    After running System Restore again to the condition prior to downloading the update, I was then able to connect to the internet.   I suspect that on the next occasion that the automatic update routine runs, the same problem will recur.  

 

Has anyone else had this problem?

 

thyde

 

My System:

 

Dimension 4500, 2.53GHz processor, 1024 Mb DIMM, Windows XP, 20Gb hard disk, 80Gb hard disk, Roxio CD R/RW, Blueyonder Broadband & LAN, Dell Photo All-in-One printer, Iomega 500Gb hard disk.

Dimension 4100, 1GHz processor, 256Mb SDRAM, Windows ME, 20Gb hard disk, Adaptec CD R/DW, HP Deskjet 840C, Scanjet 3300c, Blueyonder Broadband & LAN

Inspiron 8600, 1.4 Ghz processor, 512Mb SDRAM, Windows XP Home, 40Gb hard disk, Philips CDRW/DVD disk drive, Blueyonder Broadband & LAN

Netgear RP614 v2 router.

Message Edited by thyde on 07-09-2008 04:20 PM
  • dms997

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    Posted July 9th, 2008 14:00

    Yes, I have the same problem. In fact, I had three items from Microsoft to update. After rebooting and re-entering Internet Explorer the 'unable to connect' screen came up. I used the 'check connection' option. It suggested that I needed to change the firewall settings (I use Zone Alarm). However, I didn't know what to do, so I reverted to the Microsoft firewall which allows me to use the internet. I, too, would be grateful for some advice.

     

    I have a Dimension 8200 using XP sp3. 

     

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    Posted July 9th, 2008 14:00

    No need to remove 951978. That message is misleading: it simply lists everything installed after the update you're removing (in your case just the one subsequent update), it is not saying that they won't work, only alerting you to the fact that they might not (i.e. if removing an update breaks something else, it would most likely be something in that list).

     

    I have 951978 installed without 951748, no problems.

    Message Edited by JRosenfeld on 07-09-2008 04:54 PM
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    Posted July 9th, 2008 14:00

    You don't say whether you have the Zone Alarm Firewall, but if you do, then it is actually security update KB951748 which is causing your (and all ZA users') problems.

     

    The advice is to uninstall that update, either through add/remove or restoring to a ppoint pprevious to the restore point created automaticall by Windows update (it is the one labelled software distribution service 3.0).

     

    The latest info from ZA on their boards states:

     

    We have been working with MS over night on the issue. We are very confident a fix will be released soon. As far as how that is distributed either a patch from MS or in the form of a new build from ZA has not been determined.
     
    We will notify all users of a fix when its ready at the top of the forum in the main announcements section.
     
    We also still stand by our current workaround that you should uninstall the MS update KB951748
     
    And do not set your ZA internet security level to Medium. By setting to Medium you potential expose your computers to a huge number of other threats than just the one that this patch from MS fixes. 
     
    Forum Moderator

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    http://forum.zonelabs.org/zonelabs/board/message?board.id=cfg&thread.id=52785&view=by_date_ascending&page=2

     

    Also turn off Automatic updates pro tem (or set it to inform but don't automatically download or install), otherwise it will keep trying to reinstall it.

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    Posted July 9th, 2008 14:00

    My previous post was intended for thyde, but thanks to jrosenfeld for the explanation.

     

     

    To jrosenfeld:

     

    I tried to delete KB951748 but it told me that KB951978 might not work. Should I delete both?

     

    Regards 

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    Posted July 9th, 2008 15:00

    Imran 5000,

     

    For future reference: to see uninstallable Windows updates (not all are) in add/remove, make sure 'show updates' is checked at the top of the add/remove window. They will be listed under Windows XP - Software Updates.

    Message Edited by JRosenfeld on 07-09-2008 05:26 PM
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    Posted July 9th, 2008 15:00

    Yeah I just spotted that down at the Zonealarm forum - thanks anyway
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    Posted July 9th, 2008 15:00

    Hello!

     

    I've had the same problem on my other Dell except I've got a more serious problem - a) I had system restore switched off because that one is my music-creation PC and I was advised to do so to improve performance. (I'm regretting it now!)

     

    b) I cannot find these updates in add/remove programs - where are they located?

     

     

    EDIT : Sorry I didn't see the Zonealarm link and have uninstalled - thanks!!

     

    Message Edited by imran5000 on 07-09-2008 05:21 PM
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    Posted July 9th, 2008 16:00

    Me too, KB951748 and Zone Alarm. :smileymad:

     

    If you don't want to (or can't) remove the update, disable ZA and reenable the Windows Firewall.

     

    Ron

    Message Edited by RoHe on 07-09-2008 10:30 AM
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    Posted July 9th, 2008 20:00

    On my new Dell I have removed the update but the internet is still down!! It's working on one PC not the other

     

    Is the next move shutting down or reinstalling Zonealarm?

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    Posted July 9th, 2008 21:00

    Do a System Restore to latest date available before the updates. If that gets you back on the net, reinstall all the new updates except the one that messes up ZoneAlarm.

     

    Ron