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September 8th, 2006 21:00

2407 A02 experience

I ordered this monitor last week and have had it for a few days now.  After reading these boards for a while now I was pretty leary of getting it, but the price was just so good I couldn't pass it up.
 
Banding - Only existant in multimedia and gaming modes.  In desktop mode banding does not exist.  In fact, the gradient on the monitor test is as smooth as my 22 inch NEC CRT monitor.  Is it a big deal to have it in multimedia mode or gaming mode?  In my opinion no.  Playing World of Warcraft in desktop mode with the gamma adjusted up 2 bars is no different than playing in gaming mode without the gamma adjustment.  As far as I can tell, gaming mode or multimedia mode is nothing more than a few adjustments from desktop mode (someone correct me here if there is more to it), all of which can be done in desktop mode with your video card and game settings.  Because of this, banding is a non-issue for me.
 
Levelness of the monitor - When I first set the monitor up, the right side did sag about 1/2 a centimeter more than the left side.  I grabbed the monitor, pushed it from the bottom right corner upwards with a small amount of force....issue fixed.  Both sides are perfectly level now.
 
Stretched 1600x1200 mode - Somewhat annoying but not that big of an issue for me.  I most likely will never run anything in 1600x1200 mode anyway.  Every game I play regularly supports wide screen resolutions.
 
Dead or stuck pixels - none
 
Ghosting - very small amount of ghosting, and hardly noticeable.  Playing Unreal Tournament 2004 I could see it if the background was completely black.  And that is only if I looked for it.  Having had other LCD's, this one is far better than what I have seen.  Still not as good as my CRT in this respect though.  There also was a bit of ghosting with the mouse trail on a black backgroud.  This was my expectation though as this is just inherit with  most LCD monitors. 
 
The clarity and color of the monitor is just awesome, especially with ClearType enabled in windows.  I loaded the dell drivers which seemed to load a color profile for the monitor into windows.  After reboot my perception was a very slight adjustment in color levels.
 
Manufacter date on this is July 2006, and it is revision A02, from China.  Monitor is connected via DVI to my radeon x1900xtx.
 
The bottom line - I love the monitor.  I don't go and buy a Volkswagon expecting it to perform like a Porsche.  24 inch LCD's range anywhere from ~$500 to $5000.  In my opinion the 2407 is by far the best value or best bang for your buck out there.  I paid right around $639 for this monitor, nothing else I have seen on the market can really touch this price right now with the same performance.  Is the monitor perfect?  No, it isn't.  But you pay for what you get.  If people are so concerned about certain issues this monitor has, then they probably should be looking at the LCD's that cost 4-5 times the amount the 2407 costs.  This is all, of course, my opinion.
  • radxge2

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    Posted September 8th, 2006 23:00

    Litt77,

    Could you run the two following tests and confirm that you do not see banding with your A02?

    1) First Test
    http://hetyo-wiz.mydns.jp/hw_upload...407WFP_0044.png
    Example: This picture looks like this on my A03:
    http://img489.imageshack.us/my.php?...erthorizxj5.jpg

    2) Second Test (This is a software) http://www.dps.uk.com/freeware_DTP.htm
    Examples:
    a) With A03 (no banding is visible):
    http://img464.imageshack.us/my.php?...ndinga03rb4.jpg
    With A02 (the banding is clearly visible):
    http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?i...wmachinepl0.jpg
    b) Picture comparing A02 (left) vs A03 (right) side by side
    http://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?i...2vsa03u u5.jpg

    Thanks.

    Message Edited by RadXGe on 09-08-200608:55 PM

  • HRPretzel

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    Posted September 9th, 2006 03:00

    This is an A02 in desktop mode using DVI. Is everyone's banding this bad?!?

    this the reference image http://hetyo-wiz.mydns.jp/hw_upload/~2407wfp/file/up2407WFP_0044.png

    My A02 in Desktop http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/8808/banding001mj9.jpg

    Message Edited by HRPretzel on 09-08-200611:18 PM

  • Litt77

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    Posted September 9th, 2006 05:00

    RadXGe,
    I will gladly run the test and take pictures of my results. I am out of town till Sunday, but will get the results up Sunday evening.
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    Posted September 9th, 2006 23:00

    RadXGe,

    My 2407 A02, which was delivered by Dell yesterday, shows vertical banding in all image modes when running various monitor tests. When I look at your original test image, I can see banding. But when I look at your photo of your monitor that shows no vertical banding, I don't see any either. Wouldn't the photo of a color gradient on your monitor show banding on my monitor if banding is a problem on mine?
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    Posted September 10th, 2006 03:00

    Smoothieboy,

    The problem manifests in bizzare ways, only individual columns of screen which show a very large number of similar colours seem to exhibit it. The photo has degraded the quality of the actual gradient, you can see this by loading the photo into editing software and sampling the colours. You'll find they they often aren't in correct order and are far fewer than in the actual gradient image.

    Some other interesting points:

    Whatever processing is causing this does it over columns, and processes from top to bottom. If you look very very carefully you can see the area of the gradient below the pixels mouse cursor (from the mouse cursor to the bottom of the screen) will change (the bands will move) as you move it around. The area above does not change. This is better observed by moving something larger around (open notepad and resize for various effects).
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    Posted September 10th, 2006 14:00

    Litt77,

    Could you also post the firmware revision?
    A02 should be V1B15
    A03 should be V1B20

    Here is how to get this information
    1- Turn off your screen
    2- Press simultaneously the 'Menu' and '+' button of the screen.
    3- While holding the 2 buttons, press now the 'Power' button.
    4- Once the screen in ON, unpress the 3 buttons.
    5- Just press '-' button.

    Thanks.

    Message Edited by RadXGe on 09-10-200611:50 AM

  • Litt77

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    Posted September 11th, 2006 19:00

    My trip got extended till Wednesday.  Just wanted to let you know I haven't forgot to run all these tests, just haven't been home yet.
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    Posted September 13th, 2006 00:00

    I hope that you are enjoying your trip.
     
    Thanks.
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    Posted September 14th, 2006 16:00

    Ok, finally made it home. Here are the pics of the vertical and horizontal tests: (sorry, didn't have my dslr on me so I had to use my wifes poor quality camera)

    http://www.imminentguild.com/vert.jpg

    http://www.imminentguild.com/horiz.jpg

    The monitor is A02, firmware version V1B15 WUXGA LTM240L2

    The picture quality isn't all that great, but I can see no visible banding whatsoever in desktop mode. The other mods have horrid banding problems, but from what I have read it is to be expected in those modes.

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