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May 5th, 2014 11:00

Clean Install Windows 8.1 on New XPS 8700

Hello--I have a new XPS 8700 i7-4770 (still in the box!) and would like to perform a clean install of windows 8.1.  Windows came pre-installed on the machine.  The reason I'd like to do this is to get rid of bloatware that I'm sure will come on the machine.  If someone could help me out with how to go about this -- or direct  me to the appropriate thread -- I'd really appreciate it.  Thanks so much in advance!

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    Posted May 5th, 2014 17:00

    See my Windows Reinstallation Guide/A Clean Install of Windows 8.1:

    http://dellwindowsreinstallationguide.com/a-clean-install-of-windows/

    If you don't have Windows 8.1 installation media request it from Dell, make sure you request a Reinstallation DVD and not a Reinstallation USB as the Reinstallation USB is rumoured to have the preinstalled software such as McAfee embedded. If you are in the US or CA you should be able to get it by filling out the form:

    www.dell.com/recoverymedia

    For other regions you need to call Dell Technical Support.

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    Posted May 5th, 2014 19:00

    Thanks, Philip!

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    Posted May 6th, 2014 16:00

    It's a lot easier to just uninstall the bloatware than do the clean install. It will take only a few minutes and will give good results. For removing anti-spyware, you can usually download an uninstall program from the supplier. If you aren't satisfied, you can then do the clean install.

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    Posted May 6th, 2014 19:00

    Thanks Kirk

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    Posted May 7th, 2014 01:00

    I have found the performance of factory settings to be significantly lower than a clean install in the last few Dell systems I have seen even with the bloatware uninstalled but for all the time it takes to uninstall the bloatware you might as well try.

    However there is also the possibility of the bloatware/badly configured factory install interfering with the installation of major updates such as service packs.

    KB2871389 was a problem which was a perquisite for Windows 8.1: http://dellwindowsreinstallationguide.com/download-microsoft-windows-and-office/download-microsoft-windows/upgrading-to-windows-8-1-from-windows-8-0-via-the-microsoft-store/windows-8-1-doesnt-show-up-in-the-store-after-kb2871389-is-installed/

    KB2919442 was also a problem which was a perquisite for Windows 8.1 Update 1. Microsoft made this update uninstallable which led to multiple issues as shown in this thread:

    http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8_1-windows_update/windows-81-update-1-failing-to-install-with-errors/c3071122-e903-4775-b659-e98784bc786c

    I expect similar issues with Windows 8.1 Update 2 which is meant to restore the start menu and make apps as Windows, fixing the main problems with Windows 8.1:

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    Posted May 7th, 2014 05:00

    Thanks again Philip.  If I request a "Reinstallation DVD" from:

    www.dell.com/recoverymedia

    will it have just the operating system and not the bloatware?  Can I just install it and the license will be embedded in the bios?

    (Thanks for the great guide, by the way.)

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    Posted May 7th, 2014 09:00

    The problem with the online form is that its not specified whether you get a DVD or USB. The dispatch type (although has a dropdown menu) only lists one option as back-up media so you might be better calling Dell Technical Support.

    The Reinstallation DVD should be Windows on its own.

    The recovery USB likely has the bloatware included, from this screen it looks like the Windows installer is heavily modified by Dell, similar to factory settings:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaQr_YtZvYs&feature=player_embedded

    I haven't tested an install out with one of these but it looks like Dell backup and Recovery is integrated. Other things might be included such as McAfee and MyDell.

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    Posted May 11th, 2014 15:00

    Hey all--here's an update:  I talked to Dell tech support and they're sending me the operating system DVDs.  The tech sd that it will be 8.0 and I'll have to do the free upgrade to 8.1.  He assured me the DVDs would just have the operating system and not the bloatware.  If, however, I wanted to restore it to its original state w bloatware, operating system, etc that I should make my own flash drive w recovery media.  Does anyone foresee a problem with installing 8.0 and doing the upgrade?  Am I simply better off to buy a full version of 8.1 for about $120?  Anyway, thanks again for listening.

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    Posted May 14th, 2014 13:00

    Sorry for the late update -- the dell tech sd it wd be win 8, but what actually showed up was 8.1 DVD.  I called and also placed an order through...

    Dell Backup and Recovery Media Request Form (For US and CA Only)

    www.dell.com/recoverymedia

    So, I ended up with two 8.1 disks.

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    Posted May 14th, 2014 13:00

    So your new Dell came with 8.0 installed and that's why they are only sending you the 8.0 disk? Just wondering because my new Dell I received a week or so ago came with 8.1 installed and Dell sent me a Windows 8.1 DVD.