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ignis_solus
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December 16th, 2008 09:00
XPS 420 assistance
G'day guys, first of all, a warning! This marks my first post as I have just joined, so you'll have to cut me some n00bie slack, haha.
I have recently placed an order for an XPS 420 rig. This was my choice as I'm financially strapped, obviously, and it seemed a pretty good deal for what's included. I'll clear this point up now, I'm young and have been meaning to purchase a PC for several years now for gaming/multimedia usage, primarily gaming. I figured I'd postponed it long enough, and after some random surfing around, came to the decision of the 420. I'm moderately tech-savvy, as any 19 year old raised in today's world is. However, I've been, up until this point, mainly focused on console gaming, as it's slightly cheaper (well, was.) So, concerning the internal components of a game-intended PC my knowledge is a bit more limited.
This is the system I placed an order for:
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad Q8200 (425W)(2.33GHz, 4MB L2 Cache, 1333MHz FSB)
4GB (4X1GB) NECC Dual Channel DDR2 800MHz SDRAM Memory
512MB NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) 9800GT Graphics
500GB SATA II 3.0Gb/s
Windows Vista(R) Home Premium
Also a standard DVD bay.
First question off the list, how will the CPU handle modern games? Keep in mind, I don't 'relate' this question to the run of the mill 'can it run Crysis on maxed settings?' That game requires a nuclear-fission powered supercomputer to run on such settings, and it really doesn't look that fantastic...
Next, I spent from 4pm today (when I placed the order and joined this community) 'til now, 3:29AM, gleaning a suprising amount of info from the forums, I just need confirmation on certain points. I understand that the 425W power supply unit will pretty much handle the graphics card that is coming with the system. Will this card handle modern games in an acceptable way? If I want to, at a later date, upgrade to a better card, which one would you guys recommend? And will I need a new, more powerful PSU?
Also, I read and understood that Vista Home Premium is only 32-bit (I think?), so my 4 gigs of RAM is essentially being wasted until I upgrade to 64-bit. However, I don't understand what this means? Any help guys?
Ok, I think that's about. I sincerely apologise for the long winded post, but as I said, it's my first foray into PC gaming/building and upgrading said rig. I appreciate any help in advance.
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ignis_solus
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Posted December 16th, 2008 09:00
Cheers for the fast reply mate!
That's a bit of a shame about the CPU, I had a bit of a sinking feeling after surfing the forums. However, games that are soon to be released, or in the development phase, will surely take advantage of a quad processor yeah? Atleast I hope so...
I'm afraid I can't show you a screen image, I'm still adjusting to everything, so I'm not sure how to post an image. *But*, it's most definitely a 425W power supply. I live in Australia, and ordered one through the Aussie site, if that helps? A few months ago I customised one for fun, to get a feel for price and components etc. Back then it had, I think, a Q6600 CPU and a 375W power supply, but, as far as the Aussie versions go, they have changed.
The list I gave in the original post is a direct copy/paste of the list of things ordered.
Again, cheers for your help. Much appreciated!
ignis_solus
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Posted December 16th, 2008 10:00
Ah, that's great! Thanks for the walkthrough mate!
You are correct, however. It seems like a long process, but as you said, what I gleaned from research clearly showed that most people agreed that it is worth it.
Also, it may not prove to be such an arduous task, as I haven't actually received the PC from Dell Aus. yet. So, maybe I should just contact them and see if they can throw the appropriate CD in with it, so as soon as I get it I can put this process in motion?
Hello ignis_solus, You may contact Dell support and request a Dell Vista x64 disk.
Some have gotten them and some have not. It seems to be a toss up.
If you get the x64 disk, you would need to go to the Dell web site and download any drivers that you may need.
You would need to check your system for all the hardware devices, since there are many x64 drivers available and you will only need those that apply to your hardware.
After all this, you will have to back up any data that you may need later, because you will have to reformat the hard drive when the x64 OS is installed.
After the OS is installed, you will then need to re-install all your programs and any files that you may have backed up.
This is quite a process, but worth it.
Hope this helps.
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Posted December 16th, 2008 10:00
:^) Heh. Now this is what a newbie post should be like; well researched ahead of time, then direct and to the point. I like it! Welcome aboard, sir.
...I'm moderately tech-savvy, as any 19 year old raised in today's world is.
;^) -to which I'll quote Mark Twain: "When I was seventeen, I was appalled at my father's ignorance. But by the time I turned twenty-one, I was amazed at how much the old fellow had learned in just four short years."
...Also, I read and understood that Vista Home Premium is only 32-bit (I think?), so my 4 gigs of RAM is essentially being wasted until I upgrade to 64-bit. However, I don't understand what this means? Any help guys?
:^/ Thirty-two bit operating systems use only thirty two bit addressing to read RAM. Thirty two binary digits reach their limit at 2^32, or 4,294,967,296. That's four binary gigabytes even. So, anything over 4GB RAM cannot be used. Oddly, Windows® doesn't use the whole four gigs, so the last half gig or so is neither recognized nor used by Windows®. Soooo, upgrade to a sixty-four bit version of Windows, or swap to another OS such as Linux, which I suspect doesn't have this limitation.
In the meantime, it's incorrect to say that your four gigs are wasted on Windows®; only the last half-gig is wasted, the lower 3.5 are usable.
ignis_solus
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Posted December 16th, 2008 10:00
Haha, cheers for the insight mate, appreciated ;P
Perhaps I should have rephrased my question concerning the Gig usage.
What I meant (atleast, this what I *think* I meant), is that, somewhere in the forums, I read that it would generally just be advisable to 'upgrade' to a 64 bit version of Windows. This still has me stumped. I understand the part you explained to me, but I don't know how to move to a 64 bit version.
The rig is shipping preloaded with Vista Home Premium, so how do I get on board with a 64bit version?
Still trying to soak everything in. :-s
ignis_solus
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Posted December 16th, 2008 10:00
If you don't mind me asking, what region did you order your system from? Here in Australia, it clearly states that the rig ships with the 425W PSU, thankfully, hehe. Also, concerning the OS CD, if they are doin' that over here too, that would be a welcome addition.
I have 425 w ps on a 420, but you need to order it since the standard is 375. Dell is now sending the 64 bit of Vista Home Premium instead of the 32bit. Hello Mary G, According to his listed specs., his system would ship with the 425 Watt PS, probably because of the processor and the newer video card.
This is the system I placed an order for:
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad Q8200 (425W) (2.33GHz, 4MB L2 Cache, 1333MHz FSB)
4GB (4X1GB) NECC Dual Channel DDR2 800MHz SDRAM Memory
512MB NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) 9800GT Graphics
500GB SATA II 3.0Gb/s
Windows Vista(R) Home PremiumI have the 425 Watt PS and also using Vista x64 Ultimate with 8 GBs of memory and 3 hard drives.
I would not go back to x86 (32 bit) at all.
Hope this helps.
ignis_solus
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Posted December 16th, 2008 11:00
Understood, shall do mate. I take it that the PC comes without the OS installed, hence it being supplied on a CD?
Also, concerning the 'formatting' of the HDD, I'm not exactly sure how to do that, but I'll stay my tongue and wait until I receive it, I'm sure if I snooped around on it, I'd found out how to do it.

8bitzombie
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Posted December 16th, 2008 09:00
I'll take a stab at the first part of your post, as far as I understand it a quad series processor will not really help that much with running games that are already made because they are not designed to utilize all four cores.
The XPS 420 has a power supply of 375 watts, I dont think it comes in the 425 watt flavor. Do you have a screen image of your review summary build? I went to dells website and built the exact computer you have and it shows a 375 power supply.