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Dell 720 H2C and Penryn Support?
Hi everyone! At the moment I have a Dell Gen4 and I am eager to upgrade to an H2C. I really need a new computer soon so I don't want to wait until the Intel Penryn processor is released. Does the 720H2C support the new 45nm chips? If not is there any word on the next H2C release and will it have 45nm processor support? Thanks!
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WolverineMachin
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Posted July 25th, 2007 11:00
And to be honest, I've seen Dell trend tends not to create the new bios support for pre-exhisting hardware. Usually its a large hit on marketing. Like the Core2Duo's needed in the XPS 600, but Dell refuses to upgrade the bios allowance for the Nvidia 4 SLI x16 mobo. But that's one example out of a dozen to be honest. From Precision series and Dimension and XPS. Now they have dubbed the Inspiron to a desktop naming scheme. They have been known for this on a marketing strategy. That is one reason of many why they have manufactured mobo's the way they can configure them. It would be safer to wait a little for insider rumors, but more than likely it's going to be premium pricing at the beginning. If you can't wait, I don't see a big harm in an H2C now, but that's just an opinion. It might be voltage issues or what not, but their is a reputation out there for Dell, and they didn't get it by rumor alone. Just an FYI.XPS 600
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Posted July 25th, 2007 13:00
Yes, very true, they are getting better. I never would have believed they would get as far as they have today. Hope is still there. Michael Dell, don't step down again until you have someone with a good foothold for this industry in place. I can't take another year of trial and errors. No, let me correct that, my wallet cannot take another year of trial and errors. But I hope it will be supported. Just like the XPS 600 many thought that one would, considering the mobo, the FSB, and what not. But that turned out to be a big disappointment for upgrading procs. But it runs pretty fast still and haven't needed an issue of a new system yet. Penryn is looking good though, probably 6 to 8 months, maybe. At least for me.XPS 600
Vista Home Premium 32 bit
Pentium D 955 Extreme 3.46 Ghz OC'able (3.73 Ghz average setting)
4 Gigs of PNY Optima 667 Mhz PC5300 (3.25 Gigs useable)
640 MB EVGA Geforce 8800 GTS
128 MB Ageia Physx PPU
320Gig SATA primary,250Gig Sata, 500Gig WD MY BOOK pro
Thermaltake 5.25" bay fan controller/3-80mm modded extra fans/low rpm(noise factor)
Avermedia MCE500 TV dual tuner
Creative XIFI Extreme Music
G5 Logitech Gaming mouse, Wireless Logitech Rumblepad 2
2007WFP
One Happy Camper
XPS M140
XP Media Center 2005
Pentium M 760 2.0 Ghz
2 Gigs DDR2 533 Mhz
60 Gig 7200 RPM driveodenwalder
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Posted July 25th, 2007 13:00
In Dell's defence for the XPS7xx series they have just released a bios upgrade to support the new Intel FSB1333 cpus on the XPS720 motherboard. I do think that there is a certain life they consider for a given mobo and chipset and to be frank the idea of an upgradeable enthusiast computer is a rather new concept for Dell. I think we have seen great improvements due to the whole XPS700 issue over the past year and need to wait and see if Dell will continue in this vein in the future. With Penryn chips right around the corner they could choose to introduce a new 7 series, but also make any upgrades in that machine availble for purchase to current older 7 series owners. I may be dreaming but I think it is too soon to know.Regards - MichaelO
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XFI w/ Logitech Z-5450 5.1- Dell just released the XPS 720 H2C BIOS update for reasons which we do not fully know as of yet.As to the reasons for the BIOS Update that DELL-ChrisM posted, it seems to me that there will be a QX6850 offering for the XPS 720 H2C in the very near future. Am I way off base on this thinking?I also have the Gen4 which has served me well and I am ready for the XPS 720 H2C. I check the Dell builder daily for their offerings. I am ready to make the move when the right offering appears.I also believe the Penryn is a few months into the future; maybe 2008?
pointguard1122
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Posted July 25th, 2007 16:00
I believe with the turn Dell has taken over the past year, there is still a real possibility that the 720 mobo will support Penryn in the future. Even if the 730 or 800 is released with the launch of Penryn, Dell could always add new features to that mobo such as DDR3. This way Dell has a new high end system to sell without excluding all of their current Gen owners. Dell knows most of us will be shopping for a new system in another year or two regardless of a BIOS update. I think the longer we can use our current system, the more likely most of us will buy another XPS in the future. I boy can dream right?odenwalder
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Posted July 25th, 2007 16:00
PG,There seems to be a lot of dreaming on this thread. :smileyvery-happy:Regards - MichaelO
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4GB DDR2 PC2-5300 @ 667 Mhz
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Posted July 25th, 2007 18:00
Alienware, Falcon and a few others already have the 6850 up on their sites and ready to order.I would suspect that Dell will also offer the 6850 in a week or two.When they do I will buy.I would like the wait for Penryn but I am afraid it will not be out nor offered by Dell until 2008. Just can't wait that long to replace this 5 year old Dell Dimension 8200.Got to play Crysis on a new X10 rig.HarryLordedmond
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Posted July 26th, 2007 05:00
In the UK at OCUKIntel Core 2 Quad Extreme Edition QX6850 "LGA775 Kentsfield" 3.00GHz (1333FSB) - Retail
Quad Core Technology, 3.00GHz clock speed, 8MB L2 Cache, Intel Speedstep Technology, EM64T 64-Bit Technology, Execute Disable Bit, Full Multiplier adjustment. 3yr Warranty.
Intel 10+ in stock £574.99
(£675.61)

SR45
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Posted July 25th, 2007 09:00
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Message Edited by SR45 on 07-25-2007 06:14 AM