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September 22nd, 2008 20:00

Dell 2709W

I have a Dell 2709W UltraSharp Flat Panel Monitor.

 

 

I'm currently using the DVI cable that came with the monitor.

My Nvidia 9800 GX2 card has a two ports on it, a DVI (currently using this port)

and a HDMI port.

 

Would I get better resoultion if I used HDMI? I have HDMI cables.

Thanks for the help!

  • gpro

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    Posted September 22nd, 2008 22:00

    The video signal for DVI and HDMI is identical so the quality will be the same either way. HDMI can carry audio as well (you need to have speakers connected of course).
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    Posted September 22nd, 2008 23:00

    Dumb question but here goes. What about hooking up a high definition cable box?
  • gpro

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    Posted September 23rd, 2008 07:00

    um... you mean would the connection type make any difference? It shouldn't.
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    Posted September 23rd, 2008 09:00

    Ok, there is no difference between DVI & HDMI as far as quality resolution is concerned.

    Can I hookup a high definition cable tv box to my 2709W via either HDMI or component cables? That's my dumb question. :smileyvery-happy:

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    Posted September 23rd, 2008 11:00

    Sure, if you use component you just need to deal separately with the audio output from the STB. If you use HDMI you can alternatively use the audio out from the monitor.

     

  • agrigoriev

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    Posted September 23rd, 2008 12:00

    AFIAK DVI and HDMI interfaces are similar on signal level, but monitor’s ports treat these signals in a slightly different way. Below please find EDID dumps from DVI and HDMI ports of my 2709. As you can see P&P ID and some supporting parameters are deferent. It would be nice if someone do the same for Display Port.  

    DVI #1&2
    Monitor
    Windows description......... Plug and Play Monitor
    Manufacturer description.... DELL 2709W
    Manufacturer................ Dell
    ————————————————————————————
    Plug and Play ID............ DELA030
    Serial number............... HW************
    EDID data source............ I2C bus (real-time)
    ————————————————————————————
    Manufacture date............ 2008, ISO week 33
    EDID revision............... 1.3
    Display type and signal..... Digital
    Sync input support.......... n/a
    Screen size................. 580 x 360 mm (~28")
    Power management............ Standby, Suspend, Active off/sleep

    Color characteristics
    Display gamma............... 2,20
    Red chromaticity............ Rx 0,675 - Ry 0,318
    Green chromaticity.......... Gx 0,189 - Gy 0,704
    Blue chromaticity........... Bx 0,147 - By 0,069
    White point (default)....... Wx 0,313 - Wy 0,329

    Timing characteristics
    VESA GTF support............ Not supported
    Horizontal scan range....... 30-83kHz
    Vertical scan range......... 56-76Hz
    Video bandwidth............. 170MHz
    Extension blocks............ n/a
    Timing recommendation #1.... 1920x1200 at 60Hz
    Modeline................ "1920x1200" 154,000 1920 1968 2000 2080 1200 1203 1209 1235 +hsync -vsync

    Standard timings supported
    640 x 480 at 60Hz - IBM VGA
    640 x 480 at 75Hz - VESA
    720 x 400 at 70Hz - IBM VGA
    800 x 600 at 60Hz - VESA
    800 x 600 at 75Hz - VESA
    1024 x 768 at 60Hz - VESA
    1024 x 768 at 75Hz - VESA
    1152 x 864 at 75Hz - VESA
    1280 x 1024 at 60Hz - VESA
    1280 x 1024 at 75Hz - VESA
    1600 x 1200 at 60Hz - VESA
    1680 x 1680 at 60Hz - VESA
    1920 x 1200 at 60Hz - Dell

    Raw EDID base
    00: 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 10 AC 30 A0 53 4E 33 31
    10: 21 12 01 03 80 3A 24 78 EA E9 F5 AC 51 30 B4 25
    20: 11 50 54 A5 4B 00 81 80 A9 40 71 4F B3 00 01 01
    30: 01 01 01 01 01 01 28 3C 80 A0 70 B0 23 40 30 20
    40: 36 00 46 6C 21 00 00 1A 00 00 00 FF 00 48 57 31
    50: 31 37 38 38 44 31 33 4E 53 0A 00 00 00 FC 00 44
    60: 45 4C 4C 20 32 37 30 39 57 0A 20 20 00 00 00 FD
    70: 00 38 4C 1E 53 11 00 0A 20 20 20 20 20 20 00 1F 

    HDMI:
    Monitor
    Windows description......... Dell Monitor
    Manufacturer description.... DELL 2709W
    Manufacturer................ Dell
    ————————————————————————————
    Plug and Play ID............ DELA032
    Serial number............... HW************
    EDID data source............ I2C bus (real-time)
    ————————————————————————————
    Manufacture date............ 2008, ISO week 33
    EDID revision............... 1.3
    Display type and signal..... Digital
    Sync input support.......... n/a
    Screen size................. 580 x 360 mm (~28")
    Power management............ Standby, Suspend, Active off/sleep

    Color characteristics
    Display gamma............... 2,20
    Red chromaticity............ Rx 0,675 - Ry 0,318
    Green chromaticity.......... Gx 0,189 - Gy 0,704
    Blue chromaticity........... Bx 0,147 - By 0,069
    White point (default)....... Wx 0,313 - Wy 0,329

    Timing characteristics
    VESA GTF support............ Not supported
    Horizontal scan range....... 30-83kHz
    Vertical scan range......... 56-76Hz
    Video bandwidth............. 170MHz
    Extension blocks............ 1
    Timing recommendation #1.... 1920x1200 at 60Hz
    Modeline................ "1920x1200" 154,000 1920 1968 2000 2080 1200 1203 1209 1235 +hsync -vsync
    Timing recommendation #2.... 1920x1080 at 60Hz
    Modeline................ "1920x1080" 148,500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync
    Timing recommendation #3.... 1920x540 at 60Hz
    Modeline................ "1920x540" 74,250 1920 2008 2052 2200 540 542 547 562 +hsync +vsync
    Timing recommendation #4.... 1920x1080 at 30Hz
    Modeline................ "1920x1080" 74,250 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync
    Timing recommendation #5.... 1280x720 at 60Hz
    Modeline................ "1280x720" 74,250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync
    Timing recommendation #6.... 720x480 at 60Hz
    Modeline................ "720x480" 27,000 720 736 798 858 480 489 495 525 -hsync -vsync

    Standard timings supported
    640 x 480 at 60Hz - IBM VGA
    640 x 480 at 75Hz - VESA
    720 x 400 at 70Hz - IBM VGA
    720 x 480 at 60Hz - Dell
    800 x 600 at 60Hz - VESA
    800 x 600 at 75Hz - VESA
    1024 x 768 at 60Hz - VESA
    1024 x 768 at 75Hz - VESA
    1152 x 864 at 75Hz - VESA
    1280 x 720 at 60Hz - Dell
    1280 x 1024 at 60Hz - VESA
    1280 x 1024 at 75Hz - VESA
    1600 x 1200 at 60Hz - VESA
    1680 x 1680 at 60Hz - VESA
    1920 x 540 at 60Hz - Dell
    1920 x 1080 at 30Hz - Dell
    1920 x 1080 at 60Hz - Dell
    1920 x 1200 at 60Hz - Dell

    Raw EDID base
    00: 00 FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 10 AC 32 A0 53 4E 33 31
    10: 21 12 01 03 80 3A 24 78 EA E9 F5 AC 51 30 B4 25
    20: 11 50 54 A5 4B 00 81 80 A9 40 71 4F B3 00 01 01
    30: 01 01 01 01 01 01 28 3C 80 A0 70 B0 23 40 30 20
    40: 36 00 46 6C 21 00 00 1A 00 00 00 FF 00 48 57 31
    50: 31 37 38 38 44 31 33 4E 53 0A 00 00 00 FC 00 44
    60: 45 4C 4C 20 32 37 30 39 57 0A 20 20 00 00 00 FD
    70: 00 38 4C 1E 53 11 00 0A 20 20 20 20 20 20 01 1C

    Raw EDID extension (CEA-861)
    00: 02 03 1D F1 48 90 05 04 03 02 07 16 01 23 0D 07
    10: 07 67 03 0C 00 10 00 38 26 83 0B 00 00 02 3A 80
    20: 18 71 38 2D 40 58 2C 45 00 46 6C 21 00 00 1E 01
    30: 1D 80 18 71 1C 16 20 58 2C 25 00 46 6C 21 00 00
    40: 9E 01 1D 00 72 51 D0 1E 20 6E 28 55 00 46 6C 21
    50: 00 00 1E 8C 0A D0 8A 20 E0 2D 10 10 3E 96 00 46
    60: 6C 21 00 00 18 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    70: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 3B

    EIA/CEA-861 Information
    Revision number............. 3
    DTV underscan............... Supported
    Basic audio................. Supported
    YCbCr 4:4:4................. Supported
    YCbCr 4:2:2................. Supported
    Native formats supported.... 1
    DTV formats supported....... 8

    CE standard timings supported
    1920 x 1080p at 59.94/60Hz (16:9) - HDTV (Native)
    1920 x 1080i at 59.94/60Hz (16:9) - HDTV
    1280 x 720p at 59.94/60Hz (16:9) - HDTV
    720 x 480p at 59.94/60Hz (16:9) - EDTV
    720 x 480p at 59.94/60Hz (4:3) - EDTV
    720 x 480i at 59.94/60Hz (16:9) - Doublescan
    720 x 576i at 50Hz (16:9) - Doublescan
    640 x 480p at 59.94/60Hz (4:3) - Default

  • gpro

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    Posted September 24th, 2008 07:00

    interesting to see the HDMI EDID - what program did you use?

     

     

  • agrigoriev

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    Posted September 25th, 2008 18:00

    I've used moninfo software:

    http://www.entechtaiwan.com/files/moninfo.exe

     

    P.S. may not work with moden cart

  • MAFJMAFJ

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    Posted October 14th, 2008 18:00

    I believe that it could be possible to get better color depth (30bit) with two DVI cables connected at once.

    I wonder whether 2709W support this. In your case it is also matter of your GeForce support.

    Definitely it should be possible with DisplayPort.

     

  • Rdcptcn13

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    Posted October 19th, 2008 23:00

    So it would be safe to say that a 2709W monitor used on a PS3 with HDMI cables can support 1080P resolution?