If they are just coming up and ZA asks you if you want to allow internet access, check no and see if anything appears to be not working correctly. That may tell you where they are originating from. If they are already allowd and show up in the ZA programs, delete the entries and the next time they come up ZA will ask if you want to allow access. Maybe you can figure out where they are coming from.

Also, make sure your antivirus is up to date and then do a full system scan, just in case it is some kind of worm.

**There is no Guitarist like a Pedal Steel Guitarist**

These are not programs that are listed on ZA confif. panel.
They show up in the upper right corner of the ZA main panel as being connected to the net, same as Internet Explorer. I have to move the mouse cursor over the icon to see what they are.
ZA does not ask to allow conn.
Norton is up to date and full scan shows no problems.

Thought I was the only one. They don't seem to interfere with anything, just got curious about them.
Like you, I've got most of the programs set up to ask before connecting, most of them never do.

Gotcha, I see them on mine. One appears to be associated with "Windows Messenger". I'm not sure what the other is associated with. I don't think they are anything to be concerned about as I keep my system fairly "tight" and I've even disallowed some programs to access the internet.

**There is no Guitarist like a Pedal Steel Guitarist**

I unistalled Messenger from my system completely. I had it blocked completely, set to not start with XP and could still look and sell 60 or more attempts for access in my ZA Control Panel.

Dimension 4400
1.8A GHZ
768 MB DDR
Maxtor D740X / 80GB
NEC 5800 DVD ROM
GE 8160B CDRW
Geforce3 Ti200
Soundblaster 5.1
IBM P275 21" Monitor
XP Home
Roxio Platinum
Zone Alarm Pro
AdSubtract Pro
Adaware
Sandra 2002
Belarc Advisor

I sure would like to know what the "Process 1044 and 1008" icons mean though.
Makes me wonder if some other program just changed names to defeat ZA.
Problem is that the "process" figures show up as connected to the net, same as the icon for Internet Explorer, which to me means that the programs are connected to the Internet which means what?
Is my computer is wide open to a program that I don't even have installed?, Virus?,
Zone Alarm error?
Whatever the "process" is, it seems to be connected through my DSL connection whenever I connect to Internet Explorer with no way to shut the "process" down or give it permission to connect, or even find out what it is and what it is doing.
It may be harmless, but I'd like to have some idea about what it is and what it is doing.

XP does have a support function as in 2000 but it does not show 1008 or 1044 for any program.
Guess I'm just looking for an answer to a problem that may not exist but I would like to know what the programs are that can by-pass the Zone Alarm and hook up to the net without asking or authorization.

in Windows 2000 there is a group of packages called Windows 2000 Support Tools. in that program is called TLIST. if you do TLIST, it will give you all the programs running and their process ID, which is a number.

see if Windows Xp or whatever you are using has such tool. maybe the process ID is the same thing as the process numbers.

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Dell OptiPlex GX1 800MTbr+
Pentium II Processor 400MHz -> Pentim III Processor 1GHz
64MB -> 192MB -> 256MB SDRAM
Maxtor 90845D4 8GB
LG CRD-8400B CDROM
Samsung SW408B CDRW Drive
Windows 2000 Professional SP2+SRP1
Lucent V.90 WildWire Modem by Compaq
harman/kardon HK-LE speakers
Dell QuietKey Keyboard
Microsoft IntelliMouse 1.3A

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See your system's birth certificate!
Here is the link:
http://www.support.dell.com/us/en/birth_certificate.asp?st=XXXXX

Replace XXXXX with your service tag.

If you're concerned about the ports being open, test them with a good
internet probe from either Symantec or GRC.

Click "Test my shields" then "Probe my ports" and it will let you know
if there are any problems.


Jab
Dimension 8200 1.9G
40G NTFS Win XP Home
40G NTFS Win XP Pro
Nvidia GEForce3 TI200
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz
Altec Lansing ADA 995