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April 21st, 2007 15:00

Should Dell be pushing VISTA

Hi Ive been strugling with a very old compaq laptop 128meg ram and windows ME os, you get the picture. I also have a MESH amd athlon xp 2400 +2.00ghz 500mb ram and xp pro desk top. Guess wich one runs the best. Unfortunatly cos i travel a lot its the laptop that gets used most including a lot of online time for which I use AOL as they support many phone line providers and I can use dial up from almost any telephone point.
DELL were recommended to me by a work coleague and I invested a few hundred pounds in a Inspiron 1501 complete with VISTA. I expected from the promotional literature that I was going to get a system that out performed the my current portfolio. However after a few days of frustration and concerted effort I realised that my compaq was much better for going online with (I havent even been able to succesfully install AOL on the DELL) The praised extra security contained in VISTA appears to be me having to act on consistant dialogue boxes opening for my permission to do every little task, (often twice). And what were those other benefits, scalable (wot is that).
From my standpoint I have purchased a machine with higher spec than anything else I use from a supplier who insist they are trust worthy and the machine does a worse job, much slower, than either of my other machines.
I am confident if I had this spec machine with XP pro running I would have been up and running happy as Larry instead of plumbtuckeredout. Would I now recommend DELL? No. As experts they must have known the problems with VISTA and I feel cheated, I just hope I can get a swop for good old XP.
So am I being harsh after only a few days, are there benefits I havent seen yet are you a happy VISTA user. Please let me know.
Thanks for reading
  • SR45

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    Posted April 21st, 2007 15:00

    Brand new system, with Vista Ultimate.  Made sure all my hardware to connect to the system was Vista ready ( Drivers ), and thus far, after 10 days, I have had absolutely no problems or glitches.  Only issue is learning where everything is at on the new OS compared to XP.  Some things I like about Vista, and some I wish Microsoft would ask us first, and not a bunch of geeks in their office.
     
    Many issues are a direct result of lousy drivers support from the hardware manufactures, and not Vista.  And of course some have to do with the new OS until the fixes are sorted out, which, like XP and windows ME, will take time. 
     
    I would never, ever, install over an old operating system.  Never upgrade, but do a complete fresh install.  This will eliminate many of the issues, but not all.  Having better, newer hardware helps as well.  Never, ever go by what Mr. Gates says the OS will work with..... never.  Seen this each, and everytime a new OS hits the streets, where we are told it will work with such, and such memory, and hardware, but later to find out it will not, or not very well or not without headaches. 
     
    But for me at least, giving this new OS a little time, I will say I can get used to it, but it does have a learning curve to contend with......

     
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  • redwolfe_98

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    Posted April 21st, 2007 16:00

    i wouldn't say that dell is pushing vista.. if you go to any of the other major computer-vendors, like HP, they are shipping vista, too.. it is MS that is pushing Vista..
     
    i heard that dell is now offering win xp, again, with new computers.. if you hate vista, contact dell and tell them that you want to trade out your vista for win xp.. maybe they will let you do that..
  • fireberd

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    Posted April 21st, 2007 16:00

    I installed Vista (home premium) on my E510 desktop when it first came out.  Aside from some problems with Roxio Easy Media Creator 9 and MusicMatch Jukebox (which I really don't use anymore) I haven't had any issues to speak of.   I did do my "homework" before upgrading and had the drivers for my Epson RX700 all in one and the drivers for my SoundBlaster card, and installed the latest BIOS version (that made the BIOS 100% Vista compatible). 
     
    My E510 runs much faster and smoother than it did on XP Media Center, that it came with, and MS office programs load much faster.  I also have an XP machine and the only time it's been on, since I got Vista on the primary machine, was to research and troubleshoot an XP problem for a client.
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    Posted April 21st, 2007 19:00

    They won't let you switch, you'd have to buy a new computer if you wanted XP.
     
    On a positive note, they're offering XP again on almost all their systems now.
  • iBlue

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    Posted April 22nd, 2007 11:00

    I think the problem with Vista is threefold:
     
    1. The new features in Vista were thought to be great by the geeks at Microsoft. But the every day user finds them annoying or confusing or useless. The service packs will eventually make the OS more acceptable to users.
     
    2. It takes time for users get used to the  look and feel of a new OS.
     
    3. The major problem with Vista is the poor support by hardware manufacturers. If the hardware in the computer has good Vista drivers, the system is fine.
     
    I have Dell Dimension 4600 with 3.0 GHz Prescott 800 FSB AGP. I upgraded the machine with Samsung 941BW 19" widescreen monitor, 3GB RAM, XFX 7600GT AGP video card, HT Omega Claro soundcard and HauppaugeWinTV-HVR-1600 TV tuner. Then  I did a clean install of Vista Home Premium. I also use a 4GB Secure Digital card for ReadyBoost using one of the USB ports.
     
    The video, sound and HDTV tuner card have Vista drivers that work flawlessly with Vista Media Center
     
    I get all local OTA HDTV stations crystal clear with an indoor antenna.
     
    I am very happy with my Dell and Vista Home Premium.
  • GioAguilar

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    Posted April 22nd, 2007 17:00

    Why don't you return your system with Vista, if you are inside 21 days, you can do it with no problems... And get a new Dell with XP or without Windows... You choose
     
     
  • mike3960

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    Posted April 23rd, 2007 02:00

    hi
    i have vista for 2 months now and besides minor softwear bugs it runs great,i was going to sell my dimension 3000 windows xp but i decide to hold on to it becuse with vista i cant go on to bell.ca to view my bills it just wont log on and with xp it takes 1min and im on dont know why ,maybe vista is just too secure ? i have internet explorer 7 on both so i know that that is not the problem
     
    mike
  • orioca

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    Posted April 23rd, 2007 14:00

    I love vista! As for benefits there are non other than improved graphics and a few extra toys like aero and gadgets. If you have an system older than 2 years keep xp and wait to up grade when you get a new computer. I don't know why people hate vista so much I love it. But I have a new computer built for vista. Hope that helps.