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600m problem?? MAJOR problem!!! if you are buying 600m please read this
Is just me or Does any one have the problems same as my????? SMALL AND MAJOR PROBLEMS! (motherboard problems go down)
SMALL (is just me or it is design to have these extra "features" )
i got my 600m yesterday. and things are bothering me.
FIRST, the power botton only go down 1mm, it still power up, but have to press so hard, feels like no spring under. and the botton are more look like stuck. because the botton is inside the case, the surface is much lower than the case, my 8500 are much batter.
SECOND, when i put my hand on the right side of the laptop when typing, i can feel that the case was stick with some under. when i remove my hand, the sticky thing release the case and make sticky sound. I am sure if i can put one paper between the case and that sticky thing, i will fix the problem. but i can't.
THIRD my hard drive show only 25GB 26,000,000,000 bytes, which i should get 30GB, which is 30,000,000,000byte /1024= 29.296875GB so i lost 4 GB. i am going to check see if there is any hidden partition, but i don't think so...
Also it make the click sound when store data, sound like my old sony laptop i brought 4yr ago. i am going to take out see if it is realy Ultra and 30GB
Major problem bothers me. i search most of the model and looks like only 600m and some of the 700m are having the power, boot up, battery, and motherboard problems.
Here are the list i get from the forum and most of them had motherboard problems. And most motherborad get broken right after 1yr warranty expired.
(i was wondering if dell has any thing to do with it, right after warranty expired make your laptop broken and you need to buy a new one from them, because the price is same as to fix the old one. I am not say they did on purpose, but they probably know it will broke down around 1 yr and they didn't do any thing about it, pretend not known, since they benefit the most)
<<Motherboard Problem>>
KCHCS
Kinapis
stdname
spatzengr
cheap_part
sjdrummond
Trent Partridge
ustrain04
mimurph1
edtoib
MrRIT
jbhlion
elizobob
Sterlin254
sillybears
briangrapes
plehman
moooosie
kreizgod
dtostick
YelloJello
ppg
wakaru
dcorsi
lizbruning
moby715
Nisha8t5
whatda101
gmoscoso
stebu
crclegg
http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=insp_power&message.id=24080&view=by_date_ascending&page=5
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change three battery, same thing happened
volume key
Sideshowstanley
fondueski
Polisphere
Wlhitey
viper11885
996evo
Video overheating
pretz
tdrew
http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=insp_general&message.id=134905&query.id=135050#M134905
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Message Edited by ttttttttttaa on 10-26-2004 09:15 AM
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Posted October 27th, 2004 01:00
hi RRulesnext time when you answer someone please use some equations to back up what you writing if there is any.the hard drive please do not just say "An 80GB drive shows up as 74.5GB, a 400GB is about 380GB, a 40GB is about 36GB." it's like saying sky is blue.you should say30,000,000,000 bytes / 1024= 29296875 Kb / 1024= 28610 Mb / 1024gives 27.9 Gb, it should be about that,Got it ??I will rephrase the sticky thing. when typing you put your hand on the laptop. at the left side there is a hard drive under, so when the weight of your hand make the laptop case sink it will touch the hard or some metal case. any way it didn't make sound.
BUT WHEN you put your right hand on the right side of the touch pad while typing, when I lay my hand on the laptop it go down and touch some sticky things under. so when i lift my hand i can heard a sound.
if you still don't undertand, try this get a stick tape and stick only the center of the tape, hold the side, on your laptop or any plastic and lift the tape, when laptop is to havy for the tape to handle they will sperate and make a sound. that is what i heard every time when i lay my hand on the laptop.
you didn't answer the third problem the "POWER botton", i guess you don't have any thing to say, to make dell looks good so you just ignored. otherwise how can you miss it?? Lazy to type? then why you answer ther Last One, and Again the answer is just another defence for Dell!!the last part, where did i say dell is not good? i said i like my8500. did you see my title, did i tell them not buy the 600m?? i took a lot of time to search forum to give people references.
i just want to people to know what problem they are going to run into, even there is 0.0000001% it still greater than 0. if you do the math there will have many people might get it. people will have the same problems. I just try to tell the people who buy 600m should consider buy the 2yt warranty.
also i check other models too, only 600m and 700m have the motherboard problem, 8500,8600....others only 1 or 2 people.
thank you for ansering my questions
and one more thing, did dell give extra discount to the person supports dell? if so how can i get it? i will look up to you. after reading your post, you make me felt Dell is really "good" brand. NICE JOB!!!:smileyhappy:
Message Edited by ttttttttttaa on 10-26-2004 09:40 PM
- This is to the original poster:I can safely answer your HDD size question. Other than the apparent capacity loss due to marketing gimmicks (1024 vs. 1000), Dell has a "restore" partition which is about 4 GB (if I remember correctly). This basically has the compressed image of your preinstalled stuff - just in case you wanted to go back to your original s/w configuration.On my 600m the first thing I did was to delete this partition since I know I would never want to go back to the factory configuration!Coming to your problem with the power button, I think I know what the issue is: Right near the power button is the modem card (under the plastic bezel). There is piece of clear flexible plastic attached to this modem (I think) so that its easy to pull the modem card out by tugging on the plastic. Depending on which way this plastic peice is folded down you may have problems. If its folded to the left, then essentially it comes between the power button (plastic stub) and the actual power switch on the circuit board. So this plastic acts as a secondary spring (if you may say so). This makes the power button harder to depress and also makes it lose the assuring click of it! I had this problem with one of my inspiron 600m. Now BEWARE that you may be voiding the warranty if you pulled the plastic bezel to fix it - it is a very simple fix though!I can't answer your motherboard concerns though - I have had my 600m for only about 2 weeks now! I am crossing my finger that everything stays ok!Good luck with your 600m!
- If you knew all those equations to explain why your hard drive wasnt showing up under the actual size then you know why it is and shouldnt be making it out to be a dell problem. Also why are you attacking me, i took time to post a reply to your question to the best of my ability and said nothing deragatory to you what so ever.
Next about the sticky thing. The reason i asked you to rephrase it is this: " i can feel that the case was stick with some under. when i remove my hand, the sticky thing release the case and make sticky sound." That is one of the most gramatically incorrct grouping of sentances i have ever read. I couldnt figure out what your problem was so i kindly asked you to rephrase it so i could better reply to your post. You dont need to be sarcastic and treat me as though i'm stupid by posting that analogy about the rolled up sticky tape.
Why would i want to make dell look good? I dont work for them and i dont gain anything by making them look good. What was i supposed to say about the power button, ive never used the 600m in person so i dont know what the power button feels like and cant really say much in response to your post about it.
With the last question im simply stating the other side of the argument. You say im defending dell. I am because its pretty obvious to me that there is an extremely small chance of the 600m having a bad motherboard. You dont say that, all you do is bash the 600m and 700m. Im not a dell fanboy or anything but i want to point out the other side of the argument so people can see it.
I'm not saying you are wrong I'm just stating people should realize that these are not bad laptops. After reading your post it would be easy to feel that its not worth buying a 600m or even a 700m and i dont want people to be influenced without seeing another view point.
You said this:
"and one more thing, did dell give extra discount to the person supports dell? if so how can i get it? i will look up to you. after reading your post, you make me felt Dell is really "good" brand. NICE JOB!!!:smileyhappy:"
Again why with the calling me a dell fanboy thing again? My point was to give the other side of the argument, as ive said numerous times in this post. Also i believe dell is a really good brand. They arent the best but for the money you pay you get a pretty good deal. I have never had a bad dell product and i have owned and or extensivly used: Dimension 2400, Dimension 4500, Dimension 4550, Optiplex GXa, Optiplex GX1, Inspiron 3200, Inspiron 5150, Latitude LM, and a Latitude CPtS. I own all but the first two so i know them well. Dell is a good company, this is my opinion and i reccommend them to people all the time. If you disagree fine but do so in a logical fasion rather than attacking me with sarcasm. ttttttttttaa
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Posted October 27th, 2004 20:00
to sansjunk
thanks for telling me what's wrong. HDD is ok i can live with that, when i get money i am going to upgrade to 5200 or 7200 rpm HDD
the sound make under the case, i take the battary out and put some paper at between, fix that one too.
now the power botton, you said,
"I had this problem with one of my inspiron 600m. Now BEWARE that you may be voiding the warranty if you pulled the plastic bezel to fix it - it is a very simple fix though"
so did you fix it? yourself or send back to dell? if i don't fix it, after press so many time, it will not brake right?
you said is easy, you mean open up the computer right?
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Posted October 28th, 2004 01:00
TO RRulesYou said Dell is a good brand, I agree but that doesn’t mean 600m is good!!
The hard drive question, I didn’t know at first. I copied from some other guy who answered my question. So “If you knew all those equations to explain why your hard drive wasnt showing up under the actual size then you know why it is and shouldnt be making it out to be a dell problem.” = False
The rephrase thing, well, I thought you really don’t understand. You didn’t say it is because of my writing. “Second please rephrase the sticky thing because i dont understand the problem.” I just can’t tell. AND why don’t you tell me early?? You think I want to type that long? I am having tests, I get no time to play around. Plus some people had answered that question. I assume the sentence I wrote ware understandable. If they can read, why can you. All the people can understand, but not you???
I am asking questions, ask for help and give out info of 600m, not an argument, nor grammar checking. If you just answer my questions, I will not say any thing. But your point of view is not going to help and it more looks like argument to me. You can simply said “I am disagree with you”. And save your “Point of View”. If you want to give your point of view go some where else, write a new topic like “Dell is good”, “I own many dell and none of them having pro.”
I am post a message to info people who want to buy 600m and 700m to beware of some of the problems that 600m and 700m are having. I am talking about a specific model 600m. Dell is good doesn’t mean they don’t have problems. Even I don’t have problems, I still want to know what problems other 600m had. This is called “research”, when you buy a car , a computer or other things, you want to read this kind “problem reports”.
You should know people will not care your “point of view”. You said my post will make people not buy Dell, and you really think that? When people come to dell forum, it mean they already decided, and they just doing researches. They want to read people who are have that model and give their some rating on the product. If you didn’t own 600m how can you argue with me. Are you saying 600m is good because Dell is good? That is not logic thing to do. You keep saying that you have a lot of dell and they are good, that is your luck. I didn’t have problems with my 8500 and desktop 8200 too.
OK STOP right now, If you want to keep arguing, send a PRIVATE MESSAGE TO ME. or Open a NEW TOPIC just talk about DELL, OK?
As i said it is a reference for the people who want to buy a 600m. i am not saying it is bad, i am saying it has problem. AND I FIXED MOST OF THE PROBLEMS. SO NOW, MY IS RUNNING FINE.
- "You should know people will not care your “point of view” "
Real nice, silence an opposing point of view with a negative statement like that. You started the arguement and this is the last time im going to reply to this topic. I tried to answer your question the first time around but for some reason you had to post back with sarcasm and say how wrong i am and how i should have given you a better answer. I tried to help but i guess it wasnt good enough. good luck with your 600m, ciao

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Posted October 26th, 2004 18:00
Second please rephrase the sticky thing because i dont understand the problem.
Next just because other people are having mobo problems doesnt mean the 600m is a bad laptop. This forum is a place for people to come and get problems fixed. People dont come here to tell you how great their laptop is. Millions of 600m laptops were sold that had no problems. Theres only a small percent of people that have problems.