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Spanish Eyes

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April 4th, 2005 17:00

ventilator fan instead of start-up

Hi,
 
I'm writing from Spain where we just bought a Dell 8400 for the family which functioned very nicely during five days.  We also bought several peripherals which function well, too.  But today we tried hooking up our new Dell 922 Printer.  When all seemed in order (we missed the bit where you are supposed to turn on and select a language before hooking up the printer to the computer unit), we turned on the power switch and instead of the startup we expected, the ventilator fan (which we had never noticed before) started whirling vigorously and non-stop.  The computer on-light is fixed green but the computer does not start up, just the whirling fan, a blank screen, and lights. 
 
Did we cause something to switch on or off within the computer which interrupts the start-up process?  Is there a solution going inside the unit...or any other?   Is it just coincidence or did we cause this by starting up the 922 Printer and the hard drive at the same time?
 
It is a problem because we really NEED the computer at this time.  Our only back-up, a really old unit, is suffering battery problems and we can't turn it off.  I just wrote to the technical help people who say they'll respond in 48 hours, but I'd greatly appreciate it if anyone can suggest a rapid solution or offer the consolation that the problem will not result in loss of the computer for more than a few days.
 
Thanks for the read, Elena
  • MichaelCretired

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    Posted April 4th, 2005 18:00

    Spanish Eyes,

    Thanks for using the Dell Community Forum.

    First, have you made sure that all external devices are disconnected except the keyboard, mouse and monitor? 

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    Posted April 5th, 2005 08:00

    Hi, Michael
     
    Thanks for replying.
     
    Yes, we immediately disconnected all the peripherals and tried to start up with the monitor, mouse, and computer unit.  It isn't a matter of rebooting, the machine hardware begins to crank up, but nothing appears at all on the monitor.  Also the LED lights on the front are fixed, in fact the off button does not function, they stay fixed whether or not you try to turn off the unit or not...and the ventilator fan kicks in almost at once and stays on, too!  On the diagnostic lights, something we learned about on another post previous to our own... lights A an C are amber and fixed... lights B and D are green and steady as well.
     
    Again, we disconnected everything to move the computer to a new location where we could connect the 922 all-in-one printer.  We think now that the printer is not at fault...we received an update from KODAK the last time we connected it installed after we accepted the usual terms...though we then disconnected normally.  That could just as well be coincidence as well.  SOMETHING is interfering with the initiation of the hard disk...as soon as the machine receives the power connection the usual lights go on in the CD-DVD unit, but as they go out the ventilator begins to whirl noisily and incessantly as if trying to protect the unit from overheating....and the process of (is it correct to say "posting up"?) goes no further.  The monitor light stays orange (if you change the input it displays an "analog input feature check", switch to digital it stays black) and pushing the on off switch on the computer unit does nothing.  We can only stop the fan and turn off the LCDS by pulling the cord.
     
    Hope these diagnostic lights and further information solve the mystery for someone who knows more than we do about the system.  I've used computers for about 20 years now and have never had any problem before except the occasional failing hard drive (thrice).
     
    I have one more reply to read and three to answer (many thanks to all who are trying to help)...and then will get back if more detail is required.
     
    It is raining today in Spain, hope all is well in the home countries.
    Thanks again.
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    Posted April 5th, 2005 10:00

    We have read everything available in the manuals and on the website and the diagnostic lights could mean we have to "re-seat the graphics card".  But nowhere is there mention of the unstoppable ventilator (card ventilator we assume) and lack of on/off switch or absence of input to monitor.
     
    From Spain so far we have received two email replies and no answers.  The first with no content except the name of the technical support person, and a second asking us to give the correct tag number, etc., the first we sent had the first number incorrect because it is illegible on the unit.
     
    I think the information in my second post on this thread is complete enough that a diagnostician who knows the system should be able to give us an inmediate and definitive reply.  We would have opened the unit to look at the cards and ventilator, but we see no notice anywhere whether that would void the warranty on the system.  We assume not, as such a process is recommended as a troubleshoot in the manual and on the web.  Are we safe to try and fix the problem given that the
    technical support service in Spain only sends blank replies?
     
    We'd appreciate a rapid response from a moderator as we are sitting on our hands unable to work and the old machine keeps disconnecting between replies which is one of the reasons we bought Dell, the guaranteed and rapid solution we believed...and still hope...it is.
     
    All seems to indicate that neither the printer hook-up nor the Kodak software update are more than coincidental.  The diagnostic light info leads us to assume this is a simple and common problem.
    Are we right?  Can we go ahead and look inside?
     
    Thanks again.  And to all who have tried to give us a solution on other threads thus far, many thanks.
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    Posted April 5th, 2005 12:00



    @Spanish Eyes wrote:
    We have read everything available in the manuals and on the website and the diagnostic lights could mean we have to "re-seat the graphics card". But nowhere is there mention of the unstoppable ventilator (card ventilator we assume) and lack of on/off switch or absence of input to monitor.
    From Spain so far we have received two email replies and no answers. The first with no content except the name of the technical support person, and a second asking us to give the correct tag number, etc., the first we sent had the first number incorrect because it is illegible on the unit.
    I think the information in my second post on this thread is complete enough that a diagnostician who knows the system should be able to give us an inmediate and definitive reply. We would have opened the unit to look at the cards and ventilator, but we see no notice anywhere whether that would void the warranty on the system. We assume not, as such a process is recommended as a troubleshoot in the manual and on the web. Are we safe to try and fix the problem given that the
    technical support service in Spain only sends blank replies?
    We'd appreciate a rapid response from a moderator as we are sitting on our hands unable to work and the old machine keeps disconnecting between replies which is one of the reasons we bought Dell, the guaranteed and rapid solution we believed...and still hope...it is.
    All seems to indicate that neither the printer hook-up nor the Kodak software update are more than coincidental. The diagnostic light info leads us to assume this is a simple and common problem.
    Are we right? Can we go ahead and look inside?
    Thanks again. And to all who have tried to give us a solution on other threads thus far, many thanks.



    I'm not alone !
    Sorry for not answering technically but I have the same problem with the similar machine. I did not upgrade anything or installed new peripheral (except one printer HP 3500 a few days ago).
    Problem appeared as described in your mails.
    I don't understand why but I disconnected the power cable (not peripherals), wait for a night and morning after it was ok. The second day : idem. But yesterday, this gimmick didn't work.

    No answer from the dell support since friday.
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    Posted April 5th, 2005 16:00

    Hello again.
     
    You might like to look at the replies Ron and Sean sent me.  We reached the same conclusion reading up ourselves.  Hopefully it is a simple matter.   It would surprise me if it is simply a loose card, as the system worked perfectly for five days, and it was never moved abruptly, stirred, nor shaken.  I hope its as simple as a badly seated or faulty card so we can go back to working with the 8400.  We've had no further contact from Dell Support, Spain, assuming the siesta started at noon and isn't over yet!
     
    Helps that people here took the time and effort to write, hope the Dell administrator gets back to me as well.
     
    Regards, good luck, will write as soon as I know more, E
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    Posted April 11th, 2005 02:00

    tried looking up the Quad LEDs equivalent here Amber,Green,Amber,Green means "video subsystem configuration or failure". Its most likely either a video card or mobo related problem if we just refer to Quad lights. have you tried calling Tech Support in Spain, I believe they do have a toll-free number or have you tried doing live chat?