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8300 vs. 8250
I recently bought a 8250 (3.06Ghz) and haven't been impressed with the performance.
Since it's been within 30 days of purchase, I am wondering if I should get the 8300 instead. Does anyone know if that would be a significant increase in performance? I've read articles that indicated the new CPU in the 8300 is much faster than the older one do to the new bus speed. However, I have read people saying that they're not sure the 8300 has the newer CPU anyway.
It also seems that my CPU is limited by hard drive response anyway. I have the 200GB that supposed to be fast but my CPU performance rarely gets about 40% so perhaps putting in a faster CPU won't change things anyway.
Any advice?
//Ray
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BillLeeLee
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Posted April 23rd, 2003 00:00
And right now, the processor is the old 3.06 GHz Hyperthreaded P4. You can tell that it's not the new P4 proc cause the new one is actually only 3.00 Ghz, but supports the 800 Mhz FSB of the new Canterwood board.
Intel just said that the bug in the 3.00 was fixed today, but it'll be a few more days at least to get OEMs to patch their BIOSes.
- What performance of the 8250 you are not satisfied with? Is the system slow? How much system memory do you have? System speed is greatly affected by the system memory. Also, what software or programs have you added that might cause your system to run slow? Any comments surely help?!!
Link is the chipset Dell originally announced and introd on the 8300 at first, before the chip was pulled for some 'minor' issues. No date for re release has been given. It looks like the 8300 now offered may have a version of the this chip, with the slower memory, and front bus. Original announcement and spec had the 3.0GHz processor, 800MHz front bus,HT, and 8x AGP, using Dual Channel 400MHz DDR SDRAM. Hopefully once things are ironed out this one will come back. I'm waiting.
http://intel.com/design/chipsets/875P/index.htm?iid=ipp_browse+chpsts_feature_875p&
In response to the question about my system speed, the 3.06 Ghz 8250 just isn't noticeably faster than my 1.8Ghz 4300. Previously, it was even worse but BillLeeLee informed me about an XP system patch that slowed things down.
I have 512MBs of system ram. I don't run more than 5 or so applications simultanously so I think the amount of memory is more than sufficient. I also have monitored memory usage and I don't think I get even close to needing more.
I guess this is a result that most tasks I do require fetching a lot of data off the hard drive and that's the weakest link in the system. BillLeeLee also has given me some tips about partitioning the drive which I'll try next.
//Ray
Goldengamegod
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Posted April 23rd, 2003 05:00
you could also try running a scan at www.pcpitstop.com
It helped with performance. Do you check for spyware if not that might be the problem, some of those things can even crash ur sys. you can find the best spyware scanner at http://security.kolla.de/
MaverickmanTP
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Posted April 23rd, 2003 16:00
Raymo,
Your not going to see a HUGE IMPROVEMENT by getting a P4 3.06GHz system after owning a 1.8GHz P4 system. if you're just running everyday applications. The amount and speed of the memory you use can greatly impact performance. If you're a gamer (like me) a new video card will offer a lot more performance than a CPU upgrade.
As for the new 8300 system, it will NOT be much faster than an 8250 with the same specs. The 800MHz bus will offer better performance, but the difference will not be that huge. Everyday apps like spreadsheets and other business apps will be just as fast on a 4550 as an 8300.
You may want to look at the new Prescott CPU which will be available by the end of the year. That will offer a lot more performance than just the 800MHz bus.
Goldengamegod
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Posted April 23rd, 2003 17:00
glad to be of help :)Try running your system with a "small" 20Gb 7200rpm disk and make the big disk a slave-disk.
The large disks and partitions give the OS a lot of overhead.
The cache on de diskdrive itself is most of the time the same, big or small harddisk.
For a big disk (120Gb or 200Gb) a disk-cache of 2Mb-8Mb is not much!
I use a small disk for Windows XP (a lot of small files) and a 100Gb disk for video-editing (a few big files).
My system boot and runs fast, no problem. (I have a 8200 2,66GHz, 512Mb Memory)

Goldengamegod
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Posted April 22nd, 2003 22:00