First I noticed that my internet connection is telling me...
First I noticed that my internet connection is telling me that I have no connection- well I'm on the internet. Second I can't play sounds in games or music programs, while Windows sounds play. Third Windows Security Center is telling me my firewall is turned off, Windows can't find any antivirus software on my computer (which I have) and Windows Defender is turned
off and won't turn back on. Microsoft won't help me if I don't pay them. Dell wants to reformat my computer back to XP, then upgrade again to Vista.
A process I'm estimating to take 6 hours minimum. They think that it was a
Vista upgrade that corrupted my computer.
I don't know what to do. I want my computer FIXED. Microsoft's upgrade broke
it, and I shouldn't have to pay them to fix it. I need help! The sound and everything
were working just fine a few minutes before this
happened, so its not a driver issue. I can hear Windows sounds, just not
music or games.
The internet works, since I'm posting this, but tells me I don't have a
connection at all.
It was all of a sudden, while working on the computer, that everything quit
working correctly. I'm not a casual internet person. I don't download things
from unsafe sources, don't go to web sites where I would get pop-ups. I'm a
relatively safe internet user.
I have run virus and spyware programs multiple times and from multiple
companies. I have run Norton, McAfee, AVG, Ad-Aware, and HitMan Pro (which
includes 6+ spyware programs). There is nothing foreign or strange on my
system- just the usual tracking cookies everyone would expect to get.
I've tried system restore twice, once at one day, once at one week. They
don't work.
Like I said, Microsoft won't help me unless I pay. I assume they would want
to know that something funky is happening.
Dell thinks it was a Windows update that corrupted my system, but I don't
think they really know what they're talking about because yesterday,
according to them, I had a virus. Dell wants me to reformat my entire
computer and reinstall XP and then upgrade to Vista, since I was originally
an upgrade. I don't have the time to back up my computer and then reformat
it, that would take me weeks. I have a life and don't live in front of my home computer. I WORK!
I want to know what Microsoft has to say, since according to Dell now, it was their update that caused the corruption.
I just want things to work. Dell can have this computer back as far as I'm concerned since they can't help me fix it.
And if an update corrupted my system, wouldn't I download the same update if Microsoft doesn't know about it?
Message Edited by ivesflower on 10-31-2007 09:53 AM
Message Edited by ivesflower on 10-31-2007 09:53 AM
Microsoft will not help you at the regular support channels for one very good reason, they are not responsible for technical support on any OEM Version Software.
The OEM is responsible for technical support or in this case that would be Dell.
That being said Dell warranty covers the PC Hardware only, they do provide technical support for the system software, provided
you go along with their prescribed steps.
Dell wants to reformat my computer back to XP, then upgrade again to Vista. A process I'm estimating to take 6 hours minimum.
They think that it was a Vista upgrade that corrupted my computer.
With Dell providing the technical support you have to play the game that they provide or you will not get any assistance.
I would do the same considering they have no idea what software you have added, removed tweaked etc... They want to
get the system back to a known functional software state this helps them on Long Distance troubleshooting.
It is possible that an update hosed the system, of course anything is possible. Virus, Update corruption, Operator error.
I want my computer FIXED. Microsoft's upgrade broke it, and I shouldn't have to pay them to fix it. I need help!
How do you know it was a Microsoft Update that broke it? Speculation at best.
The sound and everything were working just fine a few minutes before this happened, so its not a driver issue.
What is the " This " that you refer to? I would look at what happened between the time it was known to work properly
and the time it was first known to not work. What ever IT is between these two events is what needs to be removed or fixed.
If it was a Microsoft Update that caused the problems Uninstall it and move on.
You are the only one that can possibly answer this question. Dell has no control over what happens to the software after
it leaves their facility. How are they accountable?
Like I said, Microsoft won't help me unless I pay. I assume they would want to know that something funky is happening.
Trust me if something " Funky " is happening with a Vista Update Microsoft knows about it.
Dell thinks it was a Windows update that corrupted my system, but I don't think they really
know what they're talking about because yesterday, according to them, I had a virus.
Dell wants me to reformat my entire computer and reinstall XP and then upgrade to Vista,
since I was originally an upgrade. I don't have the time to back up my computer and then reformat it, that would take me weeks. I have a life and don't live in front of my home computer. I WORK!
I want to know what Microsoft has to say, since according to Dell now, it was their update that caused
the corruption. I just want things to work. Dell can have this computer back as far as I'm concerned since
they can't help me fix it. And if an update corrupted my system, wouldn't I download the same update if
Microsoft doesn't know about it?
If you will not cooperate then you probably will not be helped. You actually should already have your data
backed up. Isn't that standard procedure, and a good thing to do before something like this happens?
I hope you get the issues ironed out, but there is some Personal Responsibility involved here.
It has been 90 days since I upgraded, so they want to charge me. I already called the free number, and they want me to call back and give my credit card info.
I have tried uninstalling updates and system restore- neither of which are working. System restore tells me there was an unknown error. I've tried three different dates and it won't work.
"This" is normal computer stuff. I was doing what I do every night. Checking email (not opening anything from unknown sources), Skype-ing work to see how things were doing.
I wasn't doing anything I don't normally do, nor was I doing anything particular. I just noticed that it said my internet connection wasn't working.
I couldn't figure out why that wasn't working so I decided to play a game to pass the time.
The game wouldn't play any sound and was acting slowly, so I quit that and opened iTunes. iTunes wouldn't play any music. So I rebooted.
When I rebooted the internet connection said it wasn't connected, no sounds other than Windows sounds will play, and it told me Windows Security Center was having issues.
The firewall was off, so I tried to turn it on- it wouldn't let me. I might add here that I am the only user, thus the administrator on the computer.
Windows wasn't recognizing my anti-virus software, and I couldn't fix that.
Windows Defender was off and in trying to turn it on, said it couldn't find whatever it was looking for, so it remains off.
As far as all the virus/spyware programs that are on the computer, I have Norton on there all the time, as well as Ad-Aware. When Dell suggested virus, and Norton didn't find anything, I download other programs to double-check, as, in my experience, different companies learn about different viruses and find solutions at different times, just as the spyware programs all find different things every time they are run.
I spent a lot of money on this computer to get a lot of hard drive and a fast and large processor. I may not know everything about computers, but I've been on them for 20+ years and have always been good at troubleshooting- on this I'm just lost. I know the "smart" things to do and not do with them. I'm safe with my computer and only download from safe sources, and still run virus checks on the downloaded items and again after they are installed. I don't want this sort of thing to happen to my computer and here it has. I don't know what is causing the problem and am just looking for suggestions on how to fix it not someone to tell me I did something wrong. Reguardless of the cause- if it was me or anything else, no one seems to be able to figure out why this happened and offer an explaination as how to fix it.
Every time I shut my computer down it wants to install a Windows update, and I do it every time. I would expect there to be a lot with a new operating system. I didn't do anything abnormal when this happened. When I checked my email, I didn't have anything I wanted to read, so I didn't open any email. I was on Skype. I tried to play a game that had already been downloaded, installed, and played on my computer. I was probably playing minesweeper or spider solitare while I was on Skype. Outside of that, no programs were run (other than the normals Windows programs that run all the time) or downloaded. I simply looked down after several hours of being on the computer and saw the internet connection had a red x and said that there was none. I went to go play a game that had already been on the computer and it didn't have sound. I checked the sound settings (all of them) and didn't have anything turned off. Windows sounds still played. I opened iTunes- no music. I tried Windows Media Player- no music. I opted to reboot. Then everything stayed the same and windows security center came up after the reboot.
Every time I try to use the computer the same three things happen, or stay the same as it is. I can get online just fine, but according to the computer I have no connection. I have tried iTunes and Windows Media Player- same results- no sound. Windows sounds- a-ok. System restore won't work- unknown error.
I don't know what else to do or to try. It is possible that there are more items not working properly, but because I haven't used them, I don't know about them yet. Any suggestions on other things to try to figure this out would be great.
For your NO sound issues with your computer, there's a MIXER application, make sure you have all the programs with the volume up. (To open Mixer, just do a regular click on the speaker on the lower right corner, and then click on Mixer).
If on 20+ years you never had a problem were you had to reformat a computer, is hard to understand why you don't want to do it now, as PCGEEK said, is a regular (actully IMPORTANT) task to do.
As well for Dell, I'll go with the Vista reinstallation, that, by the way, if it was using the Dell upgrade kit, a clean install will be the best. I can be done also with a RETAIL version...
I've reformatted computers before and I do reguarly back up files... its the idea that a Windows Update messed up my entire computer and my ONLY option is not for Microsoft to figure it out and fix it, that I have to take the time to make sure everything is backed up properly and then reformat my computer. I have to go through the leg work when I didn't mess up the system in the first place. The ONLY thing I did wrong was to install the Vista upgrade- and I have to do the leg work to fix it.
According to Dell Tech Support, as they have been ON my computer, not just talking to me on the phone, (gotta love Dell Connect!) it is an Windows Upgrade that corrupted my system, altough I had to seek help elsewhere as to how that can happen for an understandable explaination.
Reformatting is the only option and I'm not going to reinstall Vista. XP will do just fine.
So, even as the ONLY user, it wasn't my fault. So thanks for the help, if there was any even given to me. I really just wanted to know if I was the only one experiencing this particular problem, which, it appears from lack of message board comments, I am (so far). I really wanted to see if anyone other than Dell Tech Support- who don't speak English as a first language, and I'm pretty sure don't understand EVERY word anyone says 100%, could offer me some ASSISTANCE- in the form of an explaination or derivative of the cause. I still ended up having to ask my friends and felt confidant from their answer, not anyone elses.
So-
Windows Update caused a corruption to my system.
Have to reformat as the only option DELL can figure to fix it.
There was nothing I could do to prevent it- other than not install Vista in the first place.
In the future- it works a lot better if you would just offer help, comments, things to try, and let people vent a little frustration because no one will listen when they have a problem, then to criticize them because they don't know where else to go but a message board.
Message Edited by ivesflower on 10-31-2007 10:04 AM
" I really just wanted to know if I was the only one experiencing this particular problem, which, it appears from lack of message board comments, I am (so far)."
Dude if the problem was a Windows Update then trust me, be logical there would be a lot more people than just you effected. This board would be riddled by POed users.
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If this is an Update related problem Microsoft does provide FREE assistance here:
For assisted support options:
Microsoft Online Assisted Support (no-cost for update-related issues)
Microsoft will not help you at the regular support channels for one very good reason, they are not responsible for technical support on any OEM Version Software.
I want my computer FIXED. Microsoft's upgrade broke it, and I shouldn't have to pay them to fix it. I need help!
How do you know it was a Microsoft Update that broke it? Speculation at best.
The sound and everything were working just fine a few minutes before this happened, so its not a driver issue.
What is the " This " that you refer to? I would look at what happened between the time it was known to work properly
and the time it was first known to not work. What ever IT is between these two events is what needs to be removed or fixed.
If it was a Microsoft Update that caused the problems Uninstall it and move on.
You are the only one that can possibly answer this question. Dell has no control over what happens to the software after
it leaves their facility. How are they accountable?
Like I said, Microsoft won't help me unless I pay. I assume they would want to know that something funky is happening.
Trust me if something " Funky " is happening with a Vista Update Microsoft knows about it.
it, that would take me weeks. I have a life and don't live in front of my home computer. I WORK!
Message Edited by pcgeek11 on 10-26-2007 01:14 AM