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October 14th, 2004 04:00

replacing hard drive under warranty...

If anyone read my previous thread, I mentioned that my hard drive has died in the same fashion that many others have. (I have the 40 gig Toshiba for my Inspiron 8100). Luckily, I was able to recover the data.

Now the issue becomes replacing the hard drive. The system is still under warranty, so I assume Dell will send me a new drive right? The thing is, is Dell going to send me the exact same model? If they do, I'm not sure I would accept it. After all, to my understanding (after reading countless posts), this problem is common to these drives.

For those of you who replaced your drives under warranty, what brand/model did you receive? How will I know that the new drive I get is reliable?
  • ejn63

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    Posted October 14th, 2004 10:00

    Dell will send you a "refurbished" drive of whatever type it has on hand.

    The fact is tht you don't know how reliable any given hard drive will be - so you MUST keep backups for the inevitable time when the drive fails.

    I don't think there are any major issues with Toshiba notebook drives - there were some with the 5-10G IBM TravelStars, but not with the Toshiba units.
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    Posted October 14th, 2004 21:00

    While I do expect the drive to fail at some point, 2 years is just ridiculous. The mean time before failure (MTBF) rating on modern drives should be at least 5 years. Common figures for today's drives are 300,000 hrs (or 34 yrs).

    In any case, if I do get a "refurbished" drive, I would not be pleased. I'd sell it and pay $60 to get a new 40gig drive of a better-known reliability rating.
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    Posted October 14th, 2004 23:00

    Having been a corporate support rep, I can assure you that laptop drives are the most often replaced part.  I have seen drives fail in very short periods of time.  We had one user who went through six drives in one year.  All we had to do to fix his problem was watch him throw his laptop into the trunk of his car and advise him appropriately.  Laptop drives fail much more often than desktop drives because they are more delicate.  The mechanical clearances are much smaller and therefore more critical.  The portability and handling enhances the chance for failures, especially compared to desktops.  Laptops that are "deskbound" have a very small drive failure rate.  If you ever get the chance, disassemble a bad drive and you will be astonished it ever worked in the first place - truly an engineering marvel.
     
    Any part you recieve from Dell will probably be marked "refurbished".  I don't remember the exact reason, but is has something to do with tax or accounting issues.  Every part (not many) I have ever received from Dell has been marked refurbished. 
     
    It's almost impossible to say any one brand of drive is more reliable than another.  Realiability seems to change periodically.  A good backup schedule is the only reasonable way to handle drive failures, especially with laptops.
     
    Allen T.
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    Posted October 15th, 2004 00:00

    Allen, I appreciate your insightful post. The most interesting point was that Dell marks their replacement parts "refurbished" due to legal reasons. Does this mean that the parts may in fact be new?

    And is this just Dell's policy, or is it more widespread? I've had to exercise warranties for many other products over the years, and I think I got a new unit each time. I don't recall ever getting a "referbished" sticker on any of them.
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    Posted October 15th, 2004 12:00

    To the best of my knowledge they are new.  However, most warranties have a disclaimer about parts.  Dell is the only one I have seen do this.  It appears to me that Dell marking them refurbished causes a lot of problems, if nothing else perception problems. 
     
    Allen T.
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    Posted October 15th, 2004 15:00

    I will try to get to the bottom of this through an official Dell support technician (although I doubt I will get a candid answer).
     
    So what do you know about the warranty policy on the replacement drives you (and others) receive? Is it warrantied for another 1yr (or 3yr)? Or does the warranty expires along with the general warranty of my system (in my case 7 months)?
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    Posted October 15th, 2004 15:00

    The warrenty sticks with the system. So it will xpire in 7 mos.