Sorry for the wrong board but there no longer is a board for Precision line
Anyway maybe someone here can help
So I have a Dell T7500 with 96GB ram - 12x 8GB PC3 10600R (1333MHz).
I'd like to upgrade it to 192, but it gets a little confusing.
Pushing it requires 12x 16GB PC3 10600R (1333MHz) - they are quad rank.
OK, but there is a note in the manual:
"If more than one Quad rank DIMM is installed within a channel (DIMM1 & DIMM4, DIMM2 & DIMM5, DIMM3 & DIMM6) then the maximum DDR3 speed is reduced to 800 MHz. Spreading Quad Rank memory modules accross multiple channels is recommended."
What speed are they referring to?
Are we dropping from 1333MHz down to 800MHz? If so, that upgrade , we get twice the ram but half the speed
Maybe it's the single rank speed being capped at 800MHz. If so, the 1333MHz memory runs at 667MHz anyway so no biggie. Wait, does the quad rank memory run at 333MHz???
They suggest a solution, spreading the Quad modules to different channels, and there is a configuration in the table with 128GB - 4 of the 6 channels get a single 16GB module, everything else is populated with 8GB - yay
Except after that the table jumps straight to 192GB configuration. What about 144GB???
6x16GB +6x8GB - the quads are spread to all the channels, we get 144GB at full speed.
But why did they not mention this? Is 144GB not supported for some reason???
Also what is the whole deal with 192GB needing Red Hat?
OK, after alot of testing, here's what I know about T7500 and RAM: - 32GB sticks are NOT supported, doesn't boot in any configuration - 16GB sticks work like a charm - basically all configurations with 16GB sticks work, I checked 128GB (4x(16+8)+2*(8+8)), 144GB (6*(16+8)), 176GB (4x(16+16)+2*(16+8)) and 192GB (6x(16+16)) - what's even better, on my X5690 I did not notice a slowdown using more than one Quad module in a channel, they all still report as 1333MHz, CPU-Z reports frequency as 667MHz, and SiSoft Sandra tests the memory bandwidth at 22GB/s on all configs. - the only "slowdown" I noticed was in CPU-Z: Row Refresh Cycle Time jumped from 107 clocks up to 200 clocks. This change happened on 144GB, so 128GB is the last configuration that will give you full ram performance. - that said, like I mentioned, even at full 192GB I'm still getting 22GB/s memory bandwidth, exactly the same as with 96GB RAM previously, so I'm staying with this configuration. By the way, Dell seems to be a little whiny about RAM sticks - while testing I had two of the sticks error out, thought I got faulty sticks, but after I rearranged them in the DIMM slots, they all worked. All of the modules are Samsung Micron, exactly the same model, 8 out of 12 are even from the same production batch
So I have a Dell T7500 with 96GB ram - 12x 8GB PC3 10600R (1333MHz). I'd like to upgrade it to 192, but it gets a little confusing.
Pushing it requires 12x 16GB PC3 10600R (1333MHz) - they are quad rank. OK, but there is a note in the manual:
"If more than one Quad rank DIMM is installed within a channel (DIMM1 & DIMM4, DIMM2 & DIMM5, DIMM3 & DIMM6) then the maximum DDR3 speed is reduced to 800 MHz. Spreading Quad Rank memory modules accross multiple channels is recommended."
What speed are they referring to? Are we dropping from 1333MHz down to 800MHz? If so, that upgrade blows, we get twice the ram but half the speed Maybe it's the single direction speed being capped at 800MHz. If so, the 1333MHz memory runs at 667MHz anyway so no biggie.
They suggest a solution, spreading the Quad modules to different channels, and there is a configuration in the table with 128GB - 4 of the 6 channels get a single 16GB module, everything else is populated with 8GB - yay Except after that the table jumps straight to 192GB configuration. What about 144GB??? 6x16GB +6x8GB - the quads are spread to all the channels, we get 144GB at full speed. But why did they not mention this? Is 144GB not supported for some reason???
Also what is the whole deal with 192GB needing Red Hat? Does windows not support it??
PS.
There is another idea - anyone tried putting PC3 32GB 4x4 10600R modules into T7500? Do they work?
This way I can reach 192GB using only 6 modules - no slowdown
2nd CPU Riser has 4 cards. There are 4 Ram Risers Total 6 dimm slots. 6 slots with a 16 gig dimm and 12 slots with a 16 gig dimm = 192 total. You cant put 6 riser cards in the motherboard you can only put 1 set of riser cards.
The T7500 is a Single Processor system with 6 Dimm Slots or a Dual Processor System with 12 DIMM slots if the optional expansion riser cards are installed. There are three memory channels, each managing two DIMM slots with three additional channels managing two DIMM slots if the riser is installed. You cannot use 16 dimm slots or all of the slots on the motherboard when the riser cards are in. The 2nd CPU card DOES NOT HAVE 8 slots for ram. The riser cards are not stand alone they have aux power cables that are proprietary. You cannot use all 8 slots on the 1st cpu board with risers.
Dell Heatsink with Fan (Part: W567F) G802W Dell Memory Blower Fan (Part: Y730D) Dell Memory Shroud (Part: P787F) Dell 2nd CPU and Memory Riser Board for T7500 (Part: H236F)
Maximum Memory: 192GB
Slots: 12
Each memory slot can hold DDR3 PC3-10600, DDR3 PC3-8500, DDR3 PC3-12800 with a maximum of 24GB kit (8GBx3) per slot.*
There are six memory slots on the system board. The slots are numbered DIMM1 through DIMM6. DIMM1 is furthest from the processor.
In addition, the dual-processor riser features six additional memory slots. The slots are numbered DIMM1 through DIMM6. DIMM1 is furthest from the processor.
Memory Population Rules
Your computer requires DIMMs within a channel to be populated starting with the DIMMs farthest from the processor first. This means the DIMM slots 1, 2 and 3 must be populated before DIMM slots 4, 5 and 6. In addition, when populating a Quad-rank DIMM with a Single- or Dual-rank DIMM in the same channel, the Quad-rank DIMM must be populated farthest from the CPU.
To maximize available memory bandwidth, DIMMs within a configuration should generally be spread across as many channels as possible before populating multiple DIMMs per channel. The population guidelines below help to achieve this.
Single CPU configurations (6 DIMM slots on MB)
If configuration contains DIMMs of all the same size, populate in the following order: DIMM1, DIMM2, DIMM3, DIMM4, DIMM5, DIMM6
If configuration contains DIMMs of mixed sizes, populate the larger DIMMs first. For example, for a 4GB configuration consisting of one 2GB DIMM and two 1GB DIMMs, the population would be DIMM1=2GB, DIMM2=1GB, DIMM3=1GB, DIMM4=empty, DIMM5=empty, DIMM6=empty.
Dual CPU configurations (6 DIMM slots on MB plus 6 DIMM slots on Riser)
If configuration contains DIMMs of all the same size, populate in the following order: MB_DIMM1, Riser_DIMM1, MB_DIMM2, Riser_DIMM2, MB_DIMM3, Riser_DIMM3, MB_DIMM4, Riser_DIMM4, MB_DIMM5, Riser_DIMM5, MB_DIMM6, Riser_DIMM6.
If configuration contains DIMMs of mixed sizes, populate the larger DIMMs in the dual-processor riser.
NOTE: If any DIMMs are >30mm tall (possible early 16GB DIMMs), they must be installed on the system board only.
Dimms should be matched both Speed and Rank and vendor. Single and Dual Rank is supported. QUAD RANK is not supported and mixing ranks is not supported. Mixing vendors is not recommended unless you like trouble and blue screens and crashing.
The question keeps getting asked can I go over 192.
Answer No you cannot.
You have 6 slots with 1 cpu and 12 slots with 2 cpus and the associated cpu and RAM riser cards and power cables.
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