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March 5th, 2005 12:00

Help Buying a DVD Burner

Hi,
I want to buy a DVD burner and I think I have the one picked out  16X DVD+/-RW Drive customer install.  I am told this will be easy enough for the average idiot to install...correct?  But I am not getting a clear answer on software.  Does anyone know if it comes with any?  or any recommendations?  To start with  I want to be able to download tv shows/movies from the internet.  As mentioned above I need something for the average idiot (ok, maybe a little less than average).  I have heard people recording a DVD and then it not playing in their DVD player.  So I am looking for one that does the majority of my thinking for me...am I dreaming that this exist or is it out there?
 
Thanks for any help,
Vic
  • ctalia4000

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    Posted March 5th, 2005 13:00

    Hi Lampshade,
    Like your user name.
     
    Installing an DVD burner is not all that difficult. If you are new at this task I would suggest you purchase a retail box drive vs a white box drive without added software, and cable. I am one of Dell's many forum regulars who likes Plextor Drives. They come in a retail package with a copy of a Roxio lite  that will not burn DVD's. I use Nero to burn discs. Your can also use Sonic.
     
    Here are instructions for installing a burner. http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6603_7-5118840-1.html 
     
     
    Here is information burning DVD's etc. http://www.videohelp.com/ 
     
    Many members recommend verbatim DVD's. I use Sony Disc in my older Plextor drive.
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    Posted March 5th, 2005 19:00

    Hi,
    I am not sure what the box drive and the white box is.  I was just going to order the one from Dell it is about $130...does this sound like the right one?  I really  know very little about all this..I learn as I go along.
     
    As far as software, I do have Sonic, I user it to burn my CDs now, I never even looked to see if I can burn DVDs with it, I wonder if I have to upgrade it?
     
    Thanks,
    Vic
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    Posted March 5th, 2005 21:00

    The less you have to do with Dell the better off you and your computer will be.  Go to newegg.com or zipzoomfly.com and purchase a Plextor CD DVD +/- R RW internal drive. Better than a Sony IMO.

    I would buy a Retail version of this drive and not an OEM version.

    Message Edited by BrickYard on 03-05-2005 06:46 PM

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    Posted March 5th, 2005 23:00

    I'll reiterate some things Brickyard said. If you search this forum, you will find two brands consistently recommended, Plextor and Pioneer. The current versions of these are the Plextor PX-716A and the Pioneer DVR-A09 (same as DVR-109). I suggest you do a Google search for reviews of these two burners and see which makes an impression on you.

    When you're ready to buy, I wholeheartedly recommend Newegg.com. Here is a link to their DVD burner page:

    http://www.newegg.com/app/manufact.asp?catalog=5&DEPA=1

    There is no difference between "white box" and "retail" except that the retail will include a cable (which you don't need), so screws (which you don't need), and maybe software. However, even with a "white box" or OEM burner, most vendors offer a program call Nero OEM Suite for a very nominal cost (<$10) with the purchase of any drive, so make sure you get that.

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    Posted March 6th, 2005 01:00

    Thanks!  This is the info I have been searching for...wish I would have remembered this board a couple days ago..I would have saved a lot of time and headaches.

    I checked out the site you recommed , neweeg and well...you 2 have turned me to the other side.  Would you agree that the Plextor is the better of the two?

     

    I am still a bit confused with the software though.  It does not show the Nero program to be included like it is on some others..and the cheapest I saw to buy it for was $33, am I looking in the wrong place.  I am just worried that I will get this , get it installed only to find out I still have to buy another program to make it work.....take my scanner for example I bought it about 5 years ago and have only used it as a copier.  The software that came with it was not user friendly and I do not have the time (or enough working gray matter ) to read and study manuals.

     

    Thanks,

    Vic

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    Posted March 6th, 2005 10:00

    Vic:

    Right now I'm not seeing Newegg offering the Nero OEM Suite included with their drives. They offer this periodically, but not at all times. Here's another vendor that is offering these drives for a bit more, and you can add Nero for $6.75 to any drive ordered:

    http://store.yahoo.com/livewarehouse/dvd-r--dvd-rw-drives-atapi---eide.html

    By the way, this is where I bought my two Pioneer drives. If you're willing to wait for a deal, I recommend checking http://www.techbargains.com/ often. Some vendors will sell Nero without hardware.

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    Posted March 6th, 2005 11:00

    Thanks again!
    I checked that other site and actually the price will be about the same, once you figure in the rebate they are offering.  You say you have 2 Pioneer, are they better?  
    Is there anything I should be checking for..to be sure this will work in my computer or is it pretty much standard?  I am running XP and have plenty of memory, anything else I need?
     
    One other concern I had was, do you think there will be a HUGE difference in dowloading with a 56dial up as compared to DSL?  I guess it would be a little faster but is it really going to make  it unbearable?  Our server is great, and compared to the only DSL service available to us..it did not seem a whole lot faster, I admit the web pages took less time to load but not enought differene to warrant $40 more each month.
    Vic
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    Posted March 6th, 2005 17:00

    Lampshade:

    Pretty much any of these drives will work with your system. Either Pioneer or Plextor will work as well, but Pioneer tend to be a bit less expensive.

    Regarding your internet access, there's going to be a pretty big difference between DSL and dial-up. DSL is typically 10-20 times faster for downloads, but loading web pages may not make as much of a difference. Whether it's worth the price depends on what you want to do with your connection.

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    Posted March 8th, 2005 19:00

    Hi,
    Thanks again for all the info!  Sorry for the juvenile questions but until recently I had never even thought about doing anything fun on my computer (just work) so I do not know much about this stuff.  Would you have any idea how long it takes to download...say a 30 min. show.  I know it will be slower on dial up..but are we talking 1 hour or hours?  I know there are a lot of variables to consider but just if anyone has any ideas??
     
    All I basically do is use the computer for work..bookkeeping and run auctions..and I really am fine with my speed for that.  We live in a rural area so ther is no competition for business here..we have one ISP and can not acess any of the popular ones like AOL or  anything like that and the same goes for DSL..it is $60/mo.  For that amount I can pay for 3 months of dial up.
     
    Thanks,
    Vic
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    Posted March 8th, 2005 19:00

    Vic:

    Downloading 30 minutes of any type of video over dial-up will be painful. Consider that a DVD holds about 4.5 GB of data, about two hours of video. A decent dial-up connection downloads, say, 40-50 kbps, or 5-7 kilobytes per second, or 25 MB per hour (these are very optimistic numbers). A 1-GB video would take 40 hours.