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September 13th, 2003 19:00

Inspiron 8500 & D/View D/Port resource issues

This is what I am trying to resolve, just recently I lost usage of (COM1)! In the pursuit of the problem I have found that both the Secondary IDE Channel and Communications Port (COM1) have the Yellow w/ red! In front.
Nothing new added to the system recently.
I have dual Monitors, have the USB Floppy and a Creative external Extigy Sound card also USB and I have a 4 port 2.0 USB Lynksys hub. also networked with eithernet 10/100

Secondary IDE Channel - Device status = This device cannot find enough free resources that it can use. (Code 12)
In the “Resources type” red problem icon IRQ setting 15
I/O Range Setting 0170-0177
I/O Range Setting 0376-0376
IRQ Setting 15 - showing error

Communications Port (COM1) - Device status = This device cannot start. (Code 10)
Communications Port (COM1) is also using “IRQ 15”

This problem only occurs when Docked, I have tried uninstalling both in the Device Manager and have also deleted the Docked Profile in the Hardware Profile, with no success in resolving this issue. I have D/L and installed everything listed applicable to my system from the Dell Support site just to eliminate out-dated drivers. I did notice there was no Drivers for the D/Port? I have all the latest Patches for my OS from MS. My Operating System is XP-Pro Service pack 1.
Just noticed that my printer is also not printing ...Ports(COM & LPT) on Intel(R) 82801DBM LPC Interface Controll

Any help would be appreciated !
Thanks
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    Posted September 14th, 2003 20:00

    If this issue has been dealt with, in prior post or else where in these Forums, please let me know by posting the links to them , it would be appreciated.
    I've Flashed the Bios to A-04 which is the latest for this computer and all updates hardware & software as well.
    , Docked & Undocked!
    Tried unplugging the APR for a couple hrs also, still no luck, disconnected everything from the APR to see if that would do it ... Nope!
    Beginning to think it's this D/View gone bad, although it may be a simple resource re-allocation, I just am at the end of my knowledge here and don't know how to.
    Any help would be appreciated !
    ;)
    Is there a live chat channel for this kind of help, if so, Server & channel would be great.
    Thank's
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    Posted September 16th, 2003 12:00

    Realy getting discuraged with the lack of help or even a responce to my post! I actualy called support for an answere and was even more discuraged with the lack of knolwedge concerning my problem. I can understand if this is a new problem or if it just has not been viewed by the right individual that can help, I guess this D/View or combination 8500 & D/View is just something that doesn't work!!Going to have to remove this D/View from my set up, what a pain, and use the Sledge hammer solution!!!!!
  • newguy007

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    Posted September 16th, 2003 13:00

    Sorry to not be able to give you any info - These APR problems affect any of the laptops that they are installed on.  Mostly USB-related issues.

    Do a search and you will find many posts on the subject.

    Dell dropped the ball on this one and it's huge, IMHO.

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    Posted September 16th, 2003 14:00

    Sorry I don't have any answer for you either. I have posted also but still no response on my D/Port problems.

    Also the Tech support is overseas now. I had a very bad experience with them on 9/12/03.

    I'll reply if I find anything for you. Good luck

  • Karell

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    Posted September 16th, 2003 16:00

    ShortBusRider,

    Thank you for using the Dell Community Forum.
    Is your sound card on IRQ15 as well?
    If so, uninstall it while docked, then reboot and reinstall it to see if you can get
    another IRQ assigned to it.
    If the problem continues, go into the system bios and turn off devices you are not
    using like your wireless Truemobile or Bluetooth card.
    Then boot the system in a docked status, uninstall COM1 and the IDE Channel entry
    from the device manager. Then go ahead and reboot to try and get the system to reassign
    IRQs to them.
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    Posted September 16th, 2003 19:00

    Hopefully this info may be usefull in your persuit with DELL to finally resolve this issues with their APR.

    Past experience with hardware trying to assume a specific IRQ may be a result of the hardware itself being hard coded to use that specific IRQ setting. This setting my cause a conflict with what the laptop is currently configured with.

    When you are not plugged into the APR does your com 1 work? If so what is the IRQ setting?

    Now connect your laptop to the APR and reconfirm your IRQ settings once more... Has anything changed?

    You many want to record all IRQ settings as well as what IRQ's are being shared and with what.

     

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    Posted September 16th, 2003 21:00

    Well there is someone out there,
    Thanks for the responce newguy007 and I'm begining to believe your correct, and FEC Electric , if thats true, I will have to stop buying DELL and I have been recommending & useing them for some time now.

    Dragon375610 , I have already done what you have suggested including trying to change the IRQ and I believe that you are right and thanks! If you check back to my first post I explained that there is apsolutely nothing wrong when I am undocked. My concern and confusion comes from the fact that, this settup, as is, worked for a couple of months without a hitch, now it it is useless, I guess either I never undock, or re-dock, or actualy use this the way it is intended !!

    Responce to DELL-Karell,

    1."Is your sound card on IRQ15 as well?
    If so, uninstall it while docked, then reboot and reinstall it to see if you can get
    another IRQ assigned to it."

    Answere : No, I checked that earlier and have disconnected everything at this point to see if that would help me isolate what is causing the conflict --- now I'm even more confused - same results!!!

    2."If the problem continues, go into the system bios and turn off devices you are not
    using like your wireless Truemobile or Bluetooth card.
    Then boot the system in a docked status, uninstall COM1 and the IDE Channel entry
    from the device manager. Then go ahead and reboot to try and get the system to reassign
    IRQs to them."

    Answere: I tried this as well with no luck and am headed to the garage to find a BIGGER HAMMER !!!!!!

    Thank You all for your responces !

    I'm going to see if I can get it exchange tomorrow and see if that resolves it, for now I am forced to eliminate it from my set up. Every day plugging and unpluging everything!!!

    The only thing stopping me from useing the Sledge HAmmer, is my wife!!!!
  • newguy007

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    Posted September 16th, 2003 23:00

    I hate to say this -

    Sometimes it's easier to back everything up and do a complete re-install of the OS.  Most times, that solves the problem, especially if it's not hardware-related.

    Patch after patch and fix after fix have a way of fouling up the registry and making a mess.

    If you do a re-install, be sure to apply all of your patches and fixes, along w/ all Windows Updates, first.  Then install your software (along w/ their updates), and maybe use a program such as Norton Systemworks or Utilities to fix the errors.

    After all of that, start installing the hardware, beginning with the port replicator.  Don't install or even breath on your APR until you have everything else completed 1st.  Definately don't do an OS install w/ the APR - Many times it will start you off on the wrong foot.

    Install the hardware, one device at a time, according to their directions.  I personally check each manufacturer for updated software / drivers, before I do an install.  This is very important, as older hardware has different drivers for XP.  Some hardware will not even work w/ XP - I have run into this w/ printers and some scanners, cameras.

    Sorry if this sounds like a canned answer, but it's all I have.  All of that aside - I still haven't found a fix for the USB problems on the APR, and neither has Dell (they keep selling them, though).

    -J

     

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    Posted September 17th, 2003 00:00

    A last thing you might try - Go into control panel/system/hardware and delete most of your devices, ports, controllers, etc.  Don't restart when prompted each time - wait until you have everything gone.  You will be able to un-install most things, including the video card, sound and game controllers, ide controllers, USB ports and controllers, Com ports, LPT ports - even the batteries, if you'd like.

    Do this while you are docked.  It seems drastic, but upon Windows Reboot, it will re-detect everything and configure the ports and IRQ's as needed.  Make sure that your bios settings are correct and that you have Auto as your config for IRQ's, etc.  Let the OS do the work - I bet your problem is in here.

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    Posted September 17th, 2003 12:00

    Thanks newguy007,
    If I was having trouble with my computer, I would do a re-install like you are suggesting, but I am now running with everything working UNDOCKED! So the problem is not the Operating System and there is nothing wrong with my system configuration or I would be glad to go through the trouble of a re-install. When I ran Win98 for an OS I did a fresh install at least once a year just to tweak it to work better, but I don't believe this would help at this point. Now I'll be honest with you I haven't tried deleating everything in the Device Manager except the 2 having problems, the (com1)and the second IDE channel, this sounds like a possible solution, if I get the new APR and have the same symptoms I will try it, but for now I can't spend anymore time chasing this problem down with the one I have. I'll be calling later for a replacement.
    Thanks for your time and please anyone with solutions to these APR's feel free to post, I have a feeling this is far from over!!!