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August 29th, 2002 03:00

Office 2000 SBE on a new computer ?

The Dell Dimension L500 I bought 3 years ago came with Win 98SE and Office 2000 Small Business Edition in it.
If I uninstall from this computer, can I then install from the Office CD's on a new non-Dell computer, under Windows/XP? If so where do I find the required software serial number, if any ?

Jean



Message Edited on 08/28/02 11:03PM by kleinjj
  • Denny Denham

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    Posted August 29th, 2002 03:00

    kleinjj,

    Yes, you can. The Product ID should be on the packaging which contains the Office CDs.



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    Posted August 29th, 2002 03:00

    If you have MS Office 2000 SBE Installation disks it should work on any PC. You don't have to un install it from your old PC. Office 2000 is fully compatible with XP Home or Pro.

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    Posted August 29th, 2002 10:00


    tomintx wrote:
    You don't have to un install
    - it from your old PC.


    You do if you want to be in compliance with the license (read: "if you want to comply with the law"), unless you've purchased a separate license for the second system.

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    Posted August 29th, 2002 11:00

    Thanks Denny,

    I did find the product code on the booklet cover (that comes with the Office 2000 SBE CD's).

    However it says "sold only with a new PC".

    Even if I want to be honest and use only one copy of the product at all times, haven't Dell and Microsoft made sure it only works on the original computer ?

    Jean

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    Posted August 29th, 2002 12:00

    If you want to be honest, an OEM copy such as this one can only be used on the system it came with. However, if you don't want to be honest, it can be installed on any system.


    kleinjj wrote:

    - Even if I want to be honest and use only one copy of
    - the product at all times, haven't Dell and Microsoft
    - made sure it only works on the original computer ?



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    Posted August 29th, 2002 14:00

    kleinjj,

    The verbiage on the package means exactly what it says, " sold only with a new PC." That is there to prevent some unscrupulous reseller from offering it as a valid product which will be supported by Microsoft. The Small Business Edition is available only from computer vendors but a new computer buyer probably would not be aware of that, hence the clarication on the package. The End User License Agreement allows you to install it on one computer (and that can be any computer, regardless of its make). While you can certainly ignore the license agreement and install the program on as many computers as you wish, your plan to uninstall it from its present system and install it on a new system is not only possible, but entirely within the limits of the EULA.





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    Posted August 29th, 2002 18:00

    The verbiage in the EULA is equally important.....

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    The End User License Agreement (Oemeula.txt) for OEM versions contains the following text:

    General License Grant to Install and Use.
    Except as otherwise expressly provided in this EULA, You may only install and use one copy of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT on the COMPUTER. The SOFTWARE PRODUCT may not be installed, accessed, displayed, run, shared or used concurrently on or from different computers, including a workstation, terminal or other digital or analog electronic device ("Device)

    ==========

    I interpret the above by meaning you only get one installation on one computer with an OEM License..... and there it shall stay. You are not allowed to reinstall it on another "Device" even if it's removed from the original "Device" it was installed on.

    I'm not saying I necessarily agree.... but that's the way it appears to me to be written.


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    Posted August 29th, 2002 18:00

    As an OEM software package, MS stipulates that is can only be installed and run on the system it was sold with and does not qualify for an upgrade (unless of course you define buying a new computer as a software upgrade..lol). This also holds true for WinXP.

    Although Office 2000 doesn't utilize Office XP's activation scheme, it still requires registration within 30 days to prevent 'limited usability'. Your guess is as good as mine as to whether MS would pick up on this (assuming the original version was registered).

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    Posted August 29th, 2002 19:00

    With apologies for my incorrect information posted above, I concur with Squidly (anyone who runs WHAM-O 3.25W speakers is technologically advanced). I did not have access to an Office 2K OEMEULA. Not only is it illegal to install it on another system, but according to this if that is done, the software will stop working after a time if it is not registered, as bluescreen indicated.


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    Posted August 29th, 2002 19:00

    There is nothing in the agreement that prevents you from uninstalling OEM software that you own and installing it on another PC. It is only to be SOLD with a new PC. Once you own it, you own the right to use it on one PC that you own.

    With new product activation in XP 2002, you can't install on a second machine unless you buy a non-OEM version and the 2nd machine is a laptop.

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