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September 1st, 2006 12:00

Core2Duo VT Support Cannot Be Enabled in the BIOS

I bought a new XPS 700 with the new Core2Duo processor, specifically to take advantage of the new Intel "VT" (Virtualisation Technology - http://www.intel.com/technology/computing/vptech/) of the new Intel Core2 Duo CPUs.

However the BIOS in the XPS 700 does not offer a way to enable the VT feature of the CPU. I'm getting a warning in both VmWare and Microsoft Virtual Server that the CPU is VT-enabled, but that the feature is turned off in the BIOS.

I am REALLY, REALLY disappointed, as I waited over 2 months for this system to arrive, only to find out that it's useless to me...
  • BubBowen

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    Posted September 1st, 2006 12:00

    Sorry that's happening CPU,

    Can we get a formal response to this issue ChrisM?

    Thanks!

    Bub

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    Posted September 1st, 2006 13:00

    This could be potentially BIG disaster for Dell. I can't believe they didn't learn from the T2300 & T2300E bait and switch. What a freaking joke Dell is.

    Anyone want to investigate more into this? Dell has NEVER said that we would be getting a Core2Duo chip that is proprietary. NEVER EVER. Can we say FALSE ADVERTISEMENT?
  • Robertf900

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    Posted September 1st, 2006 14:00

    Whats new, another day another Dell OEM butcherization :)
  • tphillips63

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    Posted September 1st, 2006 15:00

    I bet its off, rather not available in any of there 'home' systems.  I have seen it in precision BIOS, but this is getting rediculous to cut features.

    The chip supports it so they think, 'no one will use that feature in a gaming pc' how sick of this are you all getting?

  • XPS Argh

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    Posted September 1st, 2006 16:00

    I have not received my system yet, it's still "in production", but VT was one thing I was looking forward to playing with. When I read this thread it did concern me so I called XPS support. What they said was that it is intentionally disabled by the bios and there is no setting to turn it back on. He also said that right now they do not intend to make it available in the future.

    The reason he was told was that the video card would burn up if they allowed it????? If someone can give me a logical explanation as to how the video card would even overheat due to VT being turned on I would appreciate it. I have friends who run, let just say alternate OS laptops which just began shipping Intel processors in them, that ship with VT turned on they work flawlessly. Never seen it burn up once. So, I would think a high end gaming system with high-end graphics cards would be in great shape to run VT.

    If anyone else can talk to tech support maybe they can get more detail. If VT is disabled it may just be the final straw that causes me to cancel my order. I guess I'll just need to think about it.
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    Posted September 1st, 2006 18:00

    Oh Dear,

    It seems I upset Dell. How does it feel?
    Too bad I can't just delete the $3500 from YOUR account like you've deleted my posts.
    Alright I'll keep it safe. No legal speak. There are other forums for that.

    I'm glad some of you did get to read it before it got "removed" from the chipset....i mean forums.

    test,
  • BubBowen

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    Posted September 1st, 2006 18:00

    Hmm,

    They can't reply to these "speculations", but they sure can delete posts!

    Comon Dell, come begging us to forgive you and not seek professional help.  Cause I assure you, it's on the way whether you've noticed it or not!

    Bub

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    Posted September 1st, 2006 19:00

    Here you go,

    Intels spec sheet on the various flavours of the C2D.
    http://www.intel.com/products/processor/core2duo/specifications.htm

    yes they ALL should supprt VT.

    This bit of info:

    ± Intel® Virtualization Technology requires a computer system with an enabled Intel® processor, BIOS, virtual machine monitor (VMM) and for some uses, certain platform software enabled for it. Functionality, performance or other benefits will vary depending on hardware and software configurations. Intel Virtualization Technology-enabled BIOS and VMM applications are currently in development.

    Shows that IT CAN be enable through the Bios by Dell.

    The question is will they?

    Message Edited by test4echo101 on 09-01-200603:47 PM

  • jsrder

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    Posted September 1st, 2006 19:00




    @XPS Argh wrote:
    I have not received my system yet, it's still "in production", but VT was one thing I was looking forward to playing with. When I read this thread it did concern me so I called XPS support. What they said was that it is intentionally disabled by the bios and there is no setting to turn it back on. He also said that right now they do not intend to make it available in the future.

    The reason he was told was that the video card would burn up if they allowed it????? If someone can give me a logical explanation as to how the video card would even overheat due to VT being turned on I would appreciate it. I have friends who run, let just say alternate OS laptops which just began shipping Intel processors in them, that ship with VT turned on they work flawlessly. Never seen it burn up once. So, I would think a high end gaming system with high-end graphics cards would be in great shape to run VT.

    If anyone else can talk to tech support maybe they can get more detail. If VT is disabled it may just be the final straw that causes me to cancel my order. I guess I'll just need to think about it.


    Interesting explaination.  Anyone with a P4D want to see if they have VT?  This wouldn't be just a C2D issue would it?  :smileywink:
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    Posted September 1st, 2006 23:00

    Oh you've got to be kidding me - that was one of the main reasons I wanted the C2D so I could virtualize Windows in Linux with XEN. This needs fixed IMMEDIATELY. I guess I'll find out first-hand once I get Linux on here.