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August 1st, 2020 15:00

Aurora R11, BIOS recovery fail, 3,6 blinking light, motherboard replacement initialized

Hi all, 

I just want to report an issue of my new Aurora R11 (arrived July 20, 2020). Yesterday (7/31/2020, used for like 10 days) I opened the SupportAssist and tried to update the BIOS driver to 1.0.1. The update didn't go through and ended with power light blinks 3 times, stop and then 6 times (checked with the service manual, says BIOS recovery image not found).

I called Premium Support today (8/1/2020), and spent an hour with the support (really thanks) and did the following things as required:

1. Hold the power button for like 30 secs, and restart -- didn't work.

2. take off the coin battery, wait for like a minutes, and restart -- didn't work

3. create the recovery usb key and hold esc+ctrl, restart -- didn't work

At the end, the engineer from Dell identifies that a motherboard replacement is required. Thanks to the Premium Support, they will replace it onsite without any cost.

My problem is exactly the same as: https://www.dell.com/community/Alienware-Desktops/Aurora-R11-dead-out-of-the-box-3-6-blinking-lights-no-video/m-p/7653187

The premium support service has started, and the engineer will come to my place and replace the motherboard next week, hope it will solve this awful problem.

Lesson learnt:

1. Don't do BIOS driver update if it is not necessary.

2. Buy premium support (not sure how premium support plus work).

3. Contact technical support if you don't know how to proceed, they are generally nice.

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I will keep updating this issue.

  • supacatsf

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    Posted August 1st, 2020 18:00

    @Seehow   I was hoping to maybe find a fix as hit the board again today and found your post. Thanks for posting this! You wouldn't believe this but I am the guy from the other post. My replacement machine came in yesterday. I also ran the Alienware support app today that recommended a bios update. 1.0.1 which was not available last time with my first R11 PC. The PC rebooted and I am in the same boat 3,6 error has returned! 

    I called support and went through all the motions and they said the same thing, failed motherboard. Ugh! They were super nice but unable to resolve.

    1) Yes, bios upgrades are dangerous but if it is listed as recommended from manufacturer then you would think that a user is going to eventually have to update. I have been using and working on PCs since 95 and have done countless bios updates and have never had this happen that I couldn't recover from.

    2) I have my in-laws both 80 something are at the house so rather would not do a service call during these times.

    3) Honestly, this is making me think I should just setup a return. I am not going to buy extended support just because Dell is not fully testing these updates and frying MBs.

    Super bummed today as was looking forward to playing with my new PC. Worst thing is that since this was a replacement, I am already weeks into my warranty spent. 

    Kinda scares me as sometimes due to a fix or a security vulnerability, a bios upgrade is needed. I have applie many to my current Area 52 R11 without issue. I am afraid that if I were to get a MB replaced then it will happen again on this model. It happened to me twice already on the same PC.

    Anyway, super thanks for sharing as at least I know I am not crazy. Sounds like Dell has an issue with the Aurora R11s

     

  • r72019

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    Posted August 1st, 2020 18:00

    Yea I haven't updated my bios in over a year.  

  • r72019

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    Posted August 1st, 2020 18:00

    The Aurora lineup comes with one-year on site support for free when purchased direct from Dell.  Dell still would have sent someone to fix this for you without plus support.  Plus, you were also still in the 30 day return and replace period too (option 2). I'm not saying added purchased warranty options are not worth purchasing. Just noting that Dell will still honor their warranty and fix defects in new pcs within the warranty period (whichever you end up getting). 

  • supacatsf

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    Posted August 1st, 2020 19:00

    @r72019 So are you just never going to update your bios even though it might come down as a recommended update? I would much rather try it in warranty.

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    Posted August 1st, 2020 19:00

    I forgot to mention that the tech I spoke to said he had 2 other cases like this over the last week.

  • supacatsf

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    Posted August 1st, 2020 19:00

    @Seehow   I was hoping to maybe find a fix as hit the board again today and found your post. Thanks for posting this! You wouldn't believe this but I am the guy from the other post. My replacement machine came in yesterday. I also ran the Alienware support app today that recommended a bios update. 1.0.1 which was not available last time with my first R11 PC. The PC rebooted and I am in the same boat 3,6 error has returned! 

    I called support and went through all the motions and they said the same thing, failed motherboard. Ugh! They were super nice but unable to resolve. 

    1) Yes, bios upgrades are dangerous but if it is listed as recommended from manufacturer then you would think that a user is going to eventually have to update. I have been using and working on PCs since 95 and have done countless bios updates and have never had this happen that I couldn't recover from.

    2) I have my in-laws both 80 something are at the house so rather would not do a service call during these times.

    3) Honestly, this is making me think I should just setup a return. I am not going to buy extended support just because Dell is not fully testing these updates and frying MBs.

    Super bummed today as was looking forward to playing with my new PC. Worst thing is that since this was a replacement, I am already weeks into my warranty spent. 

    Kinda scares me as sometimes due to a fix or a security vulnerability, a bios upgrade is needed. I have applied many to my current Area 52 R11 without issue. I am afraid that if I were to get a MB replaced then it will happen again on this model. It happened to me twice already on the same PC.

    Anyway, super thanks for sharing as at least I know I am not crazy. Sounds like Dell has an issue with the Aurora R11s

     

  • r72019

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    Posted August 2nd, 2020 00:00

    Yea I've never updated through supportassist, the program over executable over windows just adds too many variables.  It seems like most of the bios fails I've read about on here come from supportassist updates gone wrong.  The last bios update I did was zombieload #1 patch.  It seems intel is taking a piecemail approach to addressing that vulnerability.  In any event I didn't feel the potential benefits of later updates were worthwhile, considering potential impacts on my other non-oem components, including gpu, ram, and fans, and the known awcc issue with recent bios updates. Also considering my cpu was manufactured during 4Q18, and mds vulnerabilities should have been addressed at the hardware level by that time.  

  • sm56

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    Posted August 2nd, 2020 10:00

    I would be paranoid about flashing the BIOS from Windows...

    Better to save it on a USB drive then boot up and access BIOS Flash Utility in the BIOS and do it there.

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    Posted August 2nd, 2020 12:00

    Thanks guys! Lesson learned. I will never use the Dell support app again Thanks for the instructions to do it the other way. You would think Dell test these updates. ugh

  • RoHe

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    Posted August 2nd, 2020 14:00

    Keep in mind that not all PC models have the BIOS update option on their F12 menu for use with a non-bootable USB stick.

    And in that case, create a bootable USB with Rufus (free). Then copy the BIOS update .exe onto it, and use the F12 menu to boot from USB...