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October 13th, 2006 04:00

Norton Ghost

Can anyone give me some basics about Norton Ghost? My new E510 has ia trial ready to install window that appears, and I have the disc to run that Dell provided. I know nothing about this program. Are there any pointers or things I should know about it before I install it?
 
Thank you!
 
Debbie
  • ManyDimensions

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    Posted October 13th, 2006 13:00

    I am not absolutely certain what your question entails regarding Norton Ghost but the Dell provided (Norton copyright) restoration software is based on this program. I assume that the screen you refer to is one encouraging your purchase for the whole program as opposed to just the ruminants installed from the factory. 
     
    The restoration program is invoked by pressing CTRL+F11 during the boot process before WinXP has a chance to load.  A GUI (Graphical User Interface) screen will appear providing the user with the option to rewrite the drive with the factory installed image or abort.
     
    There is an image file in one partition and Dell installed diagnostic software installed into another partition on most newer computer hard drives. This was done for several reasons. The primary reason is to inovoke a full disk restoration in the event of castastrophic damage to the original WinXP installation. There is no need to provide an Operating system CD unless the customer wishes to purchase one. The system can be completely restored by Dell remote if necessary. So there are many reasons why these partitions exist on newer Dell computers.
     
    Some people may argue that it is just a sales ploy to encourage new customers to buy more software while other people find the installed software and partitions a life saver. It all depends on the perception of the end user how good or how often they may require an image to restore. The Dell provided image restoration sofware works flawlessly, I know, because I have used it on a Dimension 9100 that no longer booted to WinXP for some odd reason.
     
    Do you need to buy the full package? That is entirely up to you, but it is not a must have.
     
     
  • dg1261

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    Posted October 13th, 2006 15:00

    "Can anyone give me some basics about Norton Ghost?"
    Start here to get a handle on the two different "Ghosts" that Dell uses.  Then check here for the nitty-gritty on actually using Ghost.  And if you have questions, the Ghost experts hang out here.  (Seriously!  The real experts are not at Symantec.)
     
    There used to be a decent tutorial on the Symantec site, but I haven't been able to find it recently.  (Perhaps someone else has a current link.)
     
    Dan Goodell
     
  • ManyDimensions

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    Posted October 13th, 2006 17:00

    I can agree with the logic in the links provided but most people don't backup anything ever. That is a fact of life. It is always best to have an image file squirreled away on a DVD but most people won't do it and won't buy the software to do it. So as much as I like to agree, it is likely not to happen on a frequent basis.
     
    If under warranty a hard drive failure occurs you get a new one from Dell with the operating system and image included. If on the other hand the drive fails after warranty the end user is left to his/her own discretion. In either case, all those pictures of Sloggo attacking the mailman are gone forever.
  • DebbieOne

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    Posted October 13th, 2006 20:00

    So, are all of you pretty much in agreement that I should not bother with this installation because I have all I need as Dell provided?  I guess that's exactly what I am getting at is why install all of these unnecessary programs?
     
    I know when I got my first computer several years ago I knew absolutely NOTHING. I try, and I know much more than I did at that time, but obviously not enough!  :smileymad:  At any rate, I had things I didn't utilize on it and later figured out there was never a reason to take up disc space for all of this "stuff."  
     
    Anyway, you are all so kind to try and help those of us who are, well, dummies! Thank you for the links, too. I'll look into them and at least learn about this.
     
    Your answers are much appreciated.
     
    Debbie
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    Posted October 13th, 2006 23:00



    ManyDimensions wrote:
    I can agree with the logic in the links provided but most people don't backup anything ever. That is a fact of life. It is always best to have an image file squirreled away on a DVD but most people won't do it and won't buy the software to do it. So as much as I like to agree, it is likely not to happen on a frequent basis.


    I am sorry but you lost me, what are you agreeing to and why? I do not understand the reason behind the post, are you talking to the OP or Dan? Again, these old eyes and feable mind are not what they use to be.
     
    Linda
  • DebbieOne

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    Posted October 14th, 2006 00:00

    Dan,
     
    I see. I had read your response rather quickly as I was leaving. Now that I see it again, I understand what you are saying. I kept thinking that this all sounded strange, but that I would just have to research it more. Quite honestly, I thought, "What am I missing here!?"  
     
    Thanks Again!
     
    Debbie
  • dg1261

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    Posted October 14th, 2006 00:00

    "So, are all of you pretty much in agreement that I should not bother with this installation because I have all I need as Dell provided?  I guess that's exactly what I am getting at is why install all of these unnecessary programs?"
     
    No, I don't see how you're drawing the conclusion that these are unnecessary programs.  Many people start with that assumption, but that's why I attempt to explain the difference in the first link I gave you.
     
    Image backups are a very good thing to have.  Dell has made a nice start with the whole DSR scheme, although their implementation leaves a bit to be desired.  (For example, what do you do when the factory image Dell provides is on the hard drive and the hard drive dies?)
     
    Dell's DSR scheme provides you with your first backup image--the factory-installed Ghost image.  But it is much better to be creating new, fresh images yourself on a periodic basis.  If something goes wrong a year from now, would you rather revert back to a weeks-old or month-old image you had the foresight to create, or would you be satisfied reverting all the way back to DSR's "as-shipped" state?
     
    Unfortunately, the freebie Dell gives you with DSR cannot be used to create fresh images.  That's why they're pushing Ghost 10.  It's meant as an improvement over DSR, but it's not free.  And that's where you may be misreading me--I'm not saying Ghost 10 is unnecessary, I'm saying there are alternatives.  I believe backup images are extrememly desirable, but don't like the way Dell is manipulating customers in which product to choose.
     
    Dan Goodell