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July 14th, 2017 13:00

Area 51 idle temps at 60 degrees C

Core cpu idle about 60c gaming/stress can go up to 85c+ (cant watch it go further but i bet it has) pumps running fans on idle sit at 8% even though temps sit at 60c this is using alien command center and CPUID monitor software.

noticed this problem when fans started running full bore 4000rpm thought problem was windows 10 and the command center software again spent alot of time messing with that ;/

this is non clocked cpu, after a few days trying to understand the problem pump making funny sound like impellers are flicking inside when cpu under zero load but still at 60c

Area 51 was brought 2015 so i believe pump rad is degrading, anyone come across this problem and i couldnt find a replacement cooler so i went with the  Hydro Series H80i v2 thanks in advance

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    Posted July 14th, 2017 22:00

    Area51-R1 (used maybe) or Area51-R2?

     

    Not uncommon for Area51-R1 Asetek LQ to die after all these years. Someone with an Area51-R2 posted a few weeks ago that sounded like theirs went bad already. Anything is possible.
     
    If Area51-R2, I would replace with original stock part.
     

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    Posted July 15th, 2017 05:00

    yes. sounds like a bad Pump.

    what System is it? A51 R2? if yes, how are you planning to connect the H80I? it has a USB Connector and as far as i remember the A51 R2 has no unused Header available. without the USB Connector you can't control the Pump. i agree with Tesla1856. better stick to the original Cooler. i know, it is not cheap but it works 100%.

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    Posted July 15th, 2017 06:00

    Totally agree with Tesla1856 and CarbonBasedLifeform. Go with the original cooler, it's actually a good Asetek cooler (they make the Corsair coolers too) and it is 100 % compatible, so it's just plug and play.

    Since you mentioned the strange noise from the pump I have little hope, but before you change the whole cooler just make sure to eliminate other sources of error:

    Cooler sits tight on the CPU?

    Cooling hoses are not bent?

    Radiator is not blocked with dust or something?

    Try to unplug and plug in again CPU pump and CPU fan ...

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    Posted July 15th, 2017 07:00

    Hey thanks for the reply's, i forgot to say its an R2 system

    The H80I doesnt need to be connected its just added feature for the connector as i believe the alien mobo hasn't got USB headers free. Finding any information on alien ware products is a problem, i hadn't looked for the USB header but with or without its fine.

       So replacing the cooler with stock part is problem when i cant find it anywhere not even dell parts had it so i ordered next best thing.

    also i checked all these as u said that's the first thing i did

       Cooler sits tight on the CPU?

       Cooling hoses are not bent?

       Radiator is not blocked with dust or something

    on this note pipes are 1 cool 1 hot as u would expect.

    Ive never seen one of these liquid coolers every breakdown so i was asking if these symptom seem fair. im just glad i spotted it before damage to my CPU being haswell 5820k expensive as hell i never had it ever overclocked either thought these coolers where meant to last 7 years i herd. never had an heat sink and fan go wrong this quick on my builds either.

    on boot is 60c +/- seems running hotter today idle 65c while i watch the temps. there changing which is good. Also alienware mobo u cant change cpu fan speed as is also locked running programs like speed-fan to try and control CPU cooler fan to see if i could drop the temp trying to rule out the mobo temp sensors.

    New cooler should be here on 17th after install will update. Unless u guys can think anything else it could be Thanks in advance.

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    Posted July 16th, 2017 00:00

    BraveEng wrote:

    1. So replacing the cooler with stock part is problem

    2. on this note pipes are 1 cool 1 hot as u would expect.

     

    3. I've never seen one of these liquid coolers every breakdown 

    1. Shouldn't be. Dell Parts or even this forum.

     

    2. Actually, this usually means pump is clogged or pump impeller problem.

     

    3. Several threads here. Aurora-R4 I think (only similar, but applies). 

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    Posted July 16th, 2017 03:00

    na, i'm pretty sure the Pump is gone. i would stop using the Area 51 for now.

    alright then, if you say you have no Choice then lets do that. but why didn't you pic the H75 instead. you wouldn't need an USB Header, the radiator is thinner and the Hoses are shorter and thinner. i don't know about your Setup, but the H80I would not work in my Case. my Crucial RAM Heatspreader are too high.

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    Posted July 16th, 2017 08:00

    Hey

    0k31vh is the part this is no where to be found and a lot of people had this problem but sorry im not buying second hand cooler from ebay lol thats only place i can find. i dare not link as always moderated every post its annoying 10hours later my post is posted

    A liquid cooler works by taking warm coolant from CPU to rad to cool then back to cool the pump hence cooling CPU why would u say that just confusing this is how its meant to work, i think u are mistaken no worries i know what u mean XD

    and sorry couldn't find anything on pumps slowly breaking down besides a couple i wont link but never got to an answer hence started this thread to help others at later date.

    Hey carbon i went with the H80i v2 because noise compared to stock as well as the amount of cooling it produces to overclock my CPU at a later date i have no heat spreaders on my ram and measured just fine to fit else wouldn't of brought it, the USB header is only to control the fan u don't control such little pumps speed there set rpm powered from the mobo the USB header is just a tachometer signal to control the fan if u want to set a curve using software and no need to be connected. but yes i agree i believe to be the pump. letting cool start to check went straight to bios was 40c so i know for defo its not the temp sensor

    Thanks for help guys will post when new one is fitted

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    Posted July 16th, 2017 10:00

    okey dokey.

    i'd like to know what you think about the Noise Level when the PC is under Heavy Load.

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    Posted July 16th, 2017 13:00

    BraveEng wrote:

    1. the part this is no where to be found 

     

    2. i think u are mistaken no worries i know what u mean XD

    3. and sorry couldn't find anything on pumps slowly breaking down besides a couple i wont link but never got to an answer

    4. hence started this thread to help others at later date.

    1. If in USA, Dell Parts Dept. by phone. They are still shipping Area51-R2 so should be no problem. I see you made other arrangements, so I'll drop it.

     

    2. Yes, I know how it works   . However, it's been reported many times ... greatly different tube temps is usually a pump problem. 

     

    3. Here you go: Aurora R4 overheating problem SOLVED!!! 

     

    4. Good idea.

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    Posted July 17th, 2017 07:00

    Hey

    Its ok trust me i tried to get stock part . im in UK alien-ware parts in UK seems rare thx for the link but i never found my system to go out in overheating must of been just on the edge. if overclocked it would of for sure or worse.

    Any how the H80i V2 is in and very cool and i stole a header inst like i ever use front USB anyhow from the board to check out the link and controlling that way instead of pulling my hair out with the buggy command center.

    Also i believe i still could fit the sinks on the ram if i had some as carbon asks, but would be worth to measure to check.

    at 30c idle at 30c room temp is very quite at 10% load according to the link.

    at 100% load 10mins 51c stress testing and to be honest i didnt hear any difference in sound unlike stock fan 4k rpm making my neighbours wounder why im hovering for hours on end