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January 4th, 2021 13:00

Aurora R10, installing NVMe M.2 PCI-Express 3.0

I'm new at these things and non-technical, so might be an easy answer to this. I've looked up answers and haven't found it (or maybe didn't realize it was the answer).

I just got a R10 Aurora with Ryzen 7 3700X that has only one 512GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD. 

Then, assuming it is as easy of an install as the M2 SSD I added to my old XPS laptop a few years ago, I didn't do my research and bought this for my second drive: Western Digital WD BLACK SN750 NVMe M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express 3.0 x4 64-layer 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) WDS100T3X0C: https://www.newegg.ca/western-digital-black-sn750-nvme-1tb/p/N82E16820250110

Found this older video showing an M2 SSD installing into an R7, but not sure if this is a good video to follow for my installation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoOIBJYYvGE&ab_channel=WiLcreatives

My 3 questions:

1. I have a 3080 GTX, so assume it is the same process compared to the GPU installed in this video? It is also removing another SSD to take its spot, but I want to have both drives, so there has to be other spots for the 2nd SSD?

2. Is there an easier way to do this that doesn't require taking out the GPU and other pieces? Like using the SATA empty spots (I think?) at the bottom of the case?

3. Do I need an adapter like this I found from another post? https://www.amazon.ca/UGREEN-Adapter-Support-Include-Screwdriver/dp/B07YFW5HBN/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=M.2+PCIe+to+PCIe+3.0+x4+Adapter&qid=1609793303&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFMSkRGQVZEV0o5TzAmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA2ODcyOTYzSTFORlk0OVRIRVVHJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA3NTYyOTIxWVNZVklQSU1aRVQ5JndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

Thanks!

 

  • redxps630

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    Posted January 4th, 2021 15:00

    Re: 3 questions:

    1. I want to have both drives, so there has to be other spots for the 2nd SSD?

    motherboard has only one M.2 ssd slot. To install 2nd M.2 ssd you need a PCIe adapter.

    https://www.dell.com/support/manuals/en-us/alienware-aurora-r10-desktop/alienware-aurora-ryzen-service-manual/system-board-components?guid=guid-6e125091-884c-4dd9-8546-013747e2d1d0&lang=en-us

    2. Is there an easier way to do this that doesn't require taking out the GPU and other pieces? Like using the SATA empty spots (I think?) at the bottom of the case?

    Service manual recommends you remove gpu first as applicable before removing M.2 ssd. Long gpu overlies the ssd on motherboard so you have to remove it first.

    https://www.dell.com/support/manuals/en-us/alienware-aurora-r10-desktop/alienware-aurora-ryzen-service-manual/removing-the-solid-state-drive?guid=guid-2fdd0ff0-61c1-4661-85bf-206fb411f5ba&lang=en-us

    3. Do I need an adapter like this I found from another post?

    Yes if you want to install two M.2 ssd.

  • r72019

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    Posted January 4th, 2021 17:00

    "Is there an easier way to do this that doesn't require taking out the GPU and other pieces? Like using the SATA empty spots (I think?) at the bottom of the case?"

    Yes, you can install a 2.5" SATA SSD in one of those slots and plug it into the SATA header.  You cannot plug an m2 nvme pcie ssd into a SATA header though.  You'd need a SATA M2 for that.  But cheaper to use a 2.5" SSD, plus the 2 5" caddies are already mounted and ready for use 

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    Posted January 4th, 2021 17:00

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    Posted January 4th, 2021 21:00

    Yes, you can install a 2.5" SATA SSD in one of those slots and plug it into the SATA header. You cannot plug an m2 nvme pcie ssd into a SATA header though. You'd need a SATA M2 for that. But cheaper to use a 2.5" SSD, plus the 2 5" caddies are already mounted and ready for use.

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    This is what I usually recommend to people.

    After all, (in this example) the system already has a super-fast 512gb M.2/NVMe SSD for:

    - All Windows-10 stuff
    - All Programs and Apps
    - Several of your favorite games (even large-ly installed ones). Remember that Steam can have more than one installation folder (one on C-Drive, one on D-Drive, etc.)

    ... Anything else you want to load onto this system should run fine from an inexpensive 2.5in SATA-3/600 SSD. It is still very fast (still 4-times faster than a conventional spinning-platter hard-drive).

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    Posted January 5th, 2021 11:00

    Thanks.. that's the backup plan since as I said I unfortunately already bought the M2. So if I can't figure out how to install that with the adapter, I'd have to sell it at a loss and buy a 2.5".

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    Posted January 5th, 2021 11:00

    Thanks! For the adapter, what do I need to check to see if it's doable with my system? I guess just have to open up the computer to see if slots 16 and 17 (the PCI-Express x4 slots, not the x16 on slot 15 and 18, which one of them has the GPU on it)? I read in another post that the 15 to 17 are all covered by the RTX 3080, so if that's true, there is no way for me to add this second M2 or I then have to use a x16 adapter?

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    Posted January 5th, 2021 13:00

    The gpu comes stock in the top slot, the only way the lower x16 (x8 electrical) slot would be obstructed in oem configuration is if you had sli or a liquid cooler for the gpu (which I don't believe is offered for the 3080 yet).

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    Posted January 5th, 2021 13:00

    You can stick the x4 m2 pcie adapter into the lower x16 slot.  It will work fine.

    The x16 m2 pcie adapters are for multiple ssds and require bifurcation which isn't supported with the r10 bios.

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    Posted January 6th, 2021 00:00

    Oh actually I did add the liquid cooling option when I was purchasing: "Dark Side of the Moon chassis with High-Performance CPU Liquid Cooling and 1000W Power Supply"... not sure if that is what you meant?

    At this point, I'm leaning towards returning the M2 and buying a 2.5". It will come to about the same price but with much simpler installation (and much lower speed of course).

    Thanks a lot for the help!

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    Posted March 25th, 2021 15:00

    Have you had any luck yet i have a r10 and im in the same boat i wanna put another ssd in but i just feel like its so complicated with the nvme m.2's on the r1 should i just get a normal ssd