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February 15th, 2008 13:00

Vista and Ad-Aware 2007

Is Vista compatible with Ad-Adware 2007.  I downloaded it a couple weeks ago, but now I keep getting a crash report pop-up notice.  Is there something else that i can download that is going to help me with virus protection.  I also want to find a good firewall. 

  • ky331

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    Posted February 15th, 2008 14:00

    for a firewall, the recommendation is  
    Comodo Firewall Pro 2.4  [Windows XP / 2000 / 2003] (which is FREE, despite being a "PRO" version),
    Comodo Firewall Pro 3       [Windows Vista]
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    Posted February 15th, 2008 14:00

    In terms of FREE anti-virus programs, people in these forums are  recommending Grisoft/AVG, Avast!, or Avira/AntiVir. 
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    All are considered good.   It's more a matter of user choice as to which is "best"...
    Forum member Joe53 [whose opinion I strongly respect] currently recommends Avira's AntiVir,  Avast! 4 Home Edition, and AVG, in this order.
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    P.S.   Do *NOT* install more than one of these Anti-virus products. 
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    All are FREE; some may require you to go through a "registration" procedure.
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    Grisoft/AVG Free
    (Win 98SE, ME, NT Workstation SP6a, 2000 Pro SP4 with Security Rollup Pack, XP SP2, Vista):  http://free.grisoft.com/doc/avg-anti-virus-free/lng/us/tpl/v5
    Note:   Support for Win 98SE, ME, NT expected to end in August '08
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    Avast! Home Edition
    (Win 95/98/ME, NT 4.0, 2000. XP, Vista ;
     but excluding NT/2000/2003/XP Server families): 
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    Avira/AntiVir Personal Edition  ( Windows 2000/XP/Vista [32Bit and 64Bit]):
    Message Edited by ky331 on 02-15-2008 11:33 AM
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    Posted February 15th, 2008 14:00

    i've had problems with AA-'07 crashing even under XP --- every time i download an update, and sometimes during a scan.   as such, i no longer recommend it... and in fact, I believe that just about everyone here has "thrown in the towel" so far as AA-'07 is concerned.

     

    you wrote:   " Is there something else that i can download that is going to help me with virus protection?" 

    I hope you realize that AA-'07 does NOT offer VIRUS protection.... rather, it's a scanner that can try to remove adware and/or some spyware.

     

    let's start with some anti-malware suggestions (and I'll be right back with a/v & firewall):

     

    Assuming they are compatible with your operating system (see requirements/links below),

    my [free] anti-spyware recommendations are as follows:

    resident protection:   Windows Defender and/or Spybot's TeaTimer.

    additional on-demand scanners:  SuperAntiSpyware (SAS) and MalwareBytes Anti-Malware (MBAM)

    immunization via Spybot, and SpywareBlaster.

    pseudo-protection:   WinPatrol.

     

    Here are the program links:

     

    Windows Defender  [Windows XP Service Pack 2; or Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1 (or higher); and I believe it's automatically included as part of Vista]
    SpyBot Search & Destroy 1.5  [Windows 98/ME/NT/2000/XP/2003/Vista ; some functions need administrator rights]
    [While others (including Joe53) may differ on its optimal usage, I myself use SpyBot for ALL of the following:
    1) Immunization (optionally including HOSTS file protection),
    2) SDHelper (Browser Helper Object for Internet Explorer), 
    3) TeaTimer (realtime protection), and 
    4) on-demand scanner / removal ;
    for more details on these various features, see my post here:

     

    SuperAntiSpyware (FREE Edition for Home Users) [Windows 98, 98SE, ME, 2000, Vista, 2003 and XP Home/Pro]
    MalwareBytes Anti-Malware (Scanner/Remover is FREE) [Windows 2000, XP, Vista]
    SpywareBlaster [for all versions of Windows --- but some peope believe it's not necessary for Vista]
    WinPatrol [Windows 98 through Windows Vista]: 

     

     

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    Posted February 15th, 2008 17:00

    Most excellent. Your information has been a tremendous help.

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    Posted February 16th, 2008 23:00

    ky331. Thanks for such a complete answer and all the sites. You always help so many. I am glad that you mentioned Spyware Blaster. I was wondering if this still was recommended. I appreciate your update on Adaware 2007. 

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    Posted February 17th, 2008 00:00

    Annie,

     

    I kept on trying AA-'07, probably longer than i should have.   i kept hoping they would finally get it right.   but it seems they haven't, even yet:

    the latest version, 7.0.2.6, was loading slower than ever [until about 2 days ago, when, after LOTS of complaints, they finally found the source of the slowness].   moreover, 7.0.2.6 FREE is now "advertising" for their PLUS and PRO versions... making ad-Aware a form of adware itself!!!

     

    I have uninstalled it from most of my machines... I still have it on one, but use it less and less.

    I am no longer posting update information for it, since I don't want people to think I'm recommending it.

     

    as for spywareblaster, absolutely, it's a great defensive program to have.   the reason why i hadn't spoken about it (the way several others have), is that i really hadn't been using it until relatively recently (believe it or not  --- i just can't test everything).   there are times when I in fact wonder if I already have enough protection... and fear overkill/conflicts... yet there are other times when I say, why not go ahead and test things out?   i have access to several machines, and often will "play" with programs on the older ones first (just in case).   i'm not sure why i hadn't been using spywareblaster [and likewise, spybot's immunization].   but at some point, i tested both, and have been satisfied with the results.    

     

    for my personal  taste/usage, I have "tweaked" one setting in SpywareBlaster: 

    under restricted sites, i have UNchecked the one marked

    DoubleClick(2) doubleclick.net

    simply because it seemed that just about EVERY site i use was "guilty" of invoking this, and i got tired of continually getting security warnings about it.   that's my choice... other users can decide for themselves.

     

    there's a debate on whether or not spywareblaster "can be", "should be", "should not be", or "need not be" used under vista... for more on this, see:   http://www.dellcommunity.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=si_virus&thread.id=63159&view=by_date_ascending&page=1

     

    in contrast, while I see many of the HJT experts still recommending spywareGuard, I don't, because it hasn't been kept up to date:   see post #2 here:  http://www.dellcommunity.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=si_virus&message.id=64505

     

    finally, let's note that there are in fact many other programs "out there".    to mention some, I know Joe53 uses and recommends Comodo's BOClean, AVG AntiSpyware, and [one of the] A-Squared programs.   While I am not personally recommending any of these at this point, anything that passes muster by Joe might be worth considering.

    Message Edited by ky331 on 02-16-2008 09:12 PM
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    Posted February 27th, 2008 00:00

    I have heard varying opinions about whether Avast, AVG or any other free software is as good as a retail program like Kaspersky. 

     

    If you are willing to pay money for virus protection, would you suggest the free software instead or would Kaspersky or another retail product be preferable?  Not only based on virus detection but also on lower system resource hogging?

     

    My mom's old Dimension 4500S has been completely bogged down with Norton Internet Security...even after I installed 768MB of RAM for her.  (more RAM made a difference between night and day, but it is still much slower than it should be)

     

    At anandtech the prefered free software for XP seems to be AOL Active Virus Shield

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    Posted February 27th, 2008 02:00

    Hoofan_1:

     

    Ask 100 different people what the "best" AV is, and you will likely get 100 different answers.

     

    It is difficult to compare the free AVs to the paid programs, because there are no good independent testing websites that objectively evaluate the freebies, much less compare them to retail products. And the "winners" among the paid versions that are objectively tested change from test to test. So you will have to do your homework; read about the features offered, and decide what you need, in your own particular circumstances.

     

    One independent testing site I recommend for the paid AVs is AV-comparatives.

    If you click on the comparatives tab, and scroll down about 3/4's of the frame, you will see a summary report of 2007's tests, and an overview of how the paid contenders performed over the year.

     

    I've tried the 3 main free AVs recommended hereabouts (AVG, avast, and AntiVir) and still recommend them all for the average home user. (I believe that AOL's free Active Virus Shield is no longer offered).

     

    Not once did any of them let me down, and they all had a small footprint. Easy to install, easy to use, easy to uninstall. After the grief I had experienced with various McAfee and Norton products, they were a breath of fresh air. The biggest reservation I had about them was the lack of automatic updates, and the occasional server congestion that prevented timely manual updating.


    A somewhat dated comparison of features of these free AVs is here.

     

    Ultimately I chose a paid AV because I use this PC for work. I have had no regrets. It was a small price to pay, if only for peace of mind. IMHO to get the very best protection you do have to pay for it; I now get automatic updates several times daily from a product that consistently scores well in objective testing, which worked well on my system, and which gives me no problems. Whether "the very best" is worth the price is highly subjective.

     

    The paid AVs I consider among the best are
    - Avira's AntiVir Premium Edition
    - ESET's NOD32
    - Kaspersky AV

    Resource usage is not a problem with any of them.

     

    Tests (and testimonials) are fine as starting points, but ultimately you will have to trial them (and they all offer free, fully functional 30 day trials) to decide what works best for you.

     

     

     

     

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    Posted February 27th, 2008 03:00

    "as good as" depends on the needs of the user. Free versions generally have limitations on support and scheduled scans/tasks.

    ky331 mentioned:
    "I see many of the HJT experts still recommending spywareGuard,"
    That is because it is free and better than nothing at all. Most realtime monitoring of the registry is only included on paid software, so users running basic free security may not have any "immunization" whatsoever. WinPatrol does an excellent job keeping watch over system changes as well.
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    Posted February 27th, 2008 12:00

    BB wrote:   "That is because [SpywareGuard] is free and better than nothing at all. Most realtime monitoring of the registry is only included on paid software..."

     

    I believe each of the following are current, viable, and free, products that offer such realtime monitoring:

     

    SpyBot's TeaTimer module

     

    Comodo's BOClean

    http://www.comodo.com/boclean/boclean.html

     

    SpywareDoctor Starter Edition [albeit at the "cost" of having to download/install GooglePack]

    http://www.pctools.com/spyware-doctor/google_pack/

     

    I am also going to assume that most XP users have obtained and are running Windows Defender in real-time... and that Vista users [who have Defender automatically included] have not disabled it.

     

    I was wondering if you had any opinion/view on the relative merits of these... relative to SpywareGuard ?   Which one [or specific combination of these] would you recommend for the "average" user here?   Alternatively, aside from any reservations/objections to GooglePack , do you find faults with any of these?

     

    EDITed to  remove  consideration of SpyWareDoctor STARTER EDITION, based on the highly pejorative information posted by Red Dawn in message 1 here:

    http://www.dellcommunity.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=si_virus&message.id=66487&jump=true#M66487

    Message Edited by ky331 on 02-29-2008 11:02 AM