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January 28th, 2007 20:00

Dell 2007WFP - still issues!?

I might buy this display, it sounds good, but I've read 5+ reviews and a thread on here with 90+ pages stating a problem with banding and DVI inputs.. I can see that it was 6 months old, and people was talking about a fix.

Is this still an issue, or can I order it right away and expect NO problems at all?
  • DELL-Chris M

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    Posted January 28th, 2007 23:00

    Dumpduck,

    If you buy a new one now, you should get an A03.

    A00 Initial release
    A01 In Desktop Mode only, switched off the Faroudja video processing which causes the banding
    A02 Color tweaking in the Service Menu
    A03 Language changes in the OSD (On Screen Display)


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    Posted January 29th, 2007 07:00

    Thanks for your reply.
    But recently I've read that it fixes most of the banding, but not all?
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    Posted January 29th, 2007 08:00

    The banding has been fixed quite thoroughly in an A02 or newer monitor, which is almost guaranteed at this point. I've heard it's not perfect but I've also heard zero complaints from even the most of customers, so I wouldn't worry about it personally. As long as you stay in desktop mode, that is (which is easy).
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    Posted January 29th, 2007 08:00

    Bummer.
    I really liked the way you could easily switch between the different modes, but if only one of them works :/


    You can still stay in Desktop mode and change brightness/contrast settings, without it bugging...right?
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    Posted January 29th, 2007 09:00

    ...then just hope there are no flickering issues and font ghosting with the unit.

    I am using revision A03, RT803, made in the Czech Republic.

    IMHO If you want to buy a new one now, you should take a look at other models (or brands) as well. Sorry ChrisM, that's nothing personal.
    I wouldn't recommend this unit to anyone without the flickering and ghosting issues being solved properly first. Both issues will undeniably cause you eye fatigue.
    Even if you don't notice it. So, you have been warned. :)

    The 2007WFP has issues that definitely should not have needed to be there in the first place. I made my decision to buy the 2007WFP based on the reviews from sources like PC Magazine. After the good reviews Dell decided (let's assume not on purpose) to use another panel type as well (S-PVA instead of S-IPS) which - let's face it - never would have gotten the same reviews. Fortunately, my unit has an S-IPS panel.

    The banding issue has been solved reasonably well in rev A02 or later - but only in Desktop Mode - by turning off the Faroudja processing.

    Font ghosting is really bad, especially when compared to my other LCD monitors and my (Dell) laptop.
    Solution? None that I know of.

    Flickering is bad as well but not everyone is noticing this immediately or at all. As said earlier, it will however cause unnecessary eye fatigue.
    When calibrating the screen (with the proper hardware device), the brightness has to come down from 50 to 18-23. After this the flicker is even more noticable.
    I suspect the built-in PSU is the cause of this.
    Solution? None that I know of.

    Despite the issues I am not returning mine as I can live with the shortcomings. Does not mean that I approve with them and the reason not recommending the 2007WFP without the above mentioned issues being solved.

    In comparison:
    My previous LCD, a Dell 1901FP, is still going strong after 3 years of 10+ hours use on a daily basis. No flickering, no font ghosting, no problems other then common things related to the type of panel used.
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    Posted January 29th, 2007 10:00

    If you are going to do graphics and possibly photo editing, don't settle for anything less then an S-IPS based panel. The E207WFP is not up to that task.

    Dell makes some good products but I really can't recommend or make a comment on how good other model Dell monitors are in reality until I have tried and tested them. Besides, that would not guarantee all units will perform the same given for one the example of the Dell 'panel-lottery' - IMHO a bad decision (understatement) that won't do Dell any good.

    For (semi)pro users with money to spare (nope, not me!) I'd recommend taking a look at the high end EIZO's as well. Go out to hug and test them yourself.

    Maybe others can help with choosing the right monitor but you need to be prepared to go through the hassle of having it replaced (or sending it back) in case you can't live with any shortcoming you may find.

    Message Edited by TheBaldyMan on 01-29-200706:44 AM

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    Posted January 29th, 2007 10:00

    Thanks for your reply, TheBaldyMan.
    I don't really wanna buy one of these now. Are there any other Dell displays (20" wide, maybe 21") that you can recommend me? I was looking at E207WFP, but it has a TN panel :/ and I am going to do graphics as well (amateur, but still), so other panels are better, so I heard..