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1905 FP Issue
I had the following over at the video forum but this seems more of a flat panel issue, can anyone help ?
Hi all
Not sure if I am over reacting, but would like your views before I contact Dell. Right out of the box when I booted up the system, the desktop colours/appearance looked washed out and foggy. No big deal I thought until I loaded a few games - well it looks like an infamous London fog has descended on everything, with the picture looking white and misty.
This problem can be fixed by playing with gamma, contrast & brightness settings of the x800se and with lots of fiddling and messing around, I can fix both a desktop setting and a full screen setting that makes the display appear like my trusty old DIM4100 with a Ti4200.
But here is my catch, I bought this machine for gaming, so was wanting to use the optimised omega drivers and guess what, the omegas don't allow you to set a gamma, contrast and brightness profile for full screen mode only for desktop. This means that I am back to the fog when trying to game.
I have played with the monitor settings, but that does not help.
So here is my issue, I would have thought that the card's default settings for colour should have been spot on straight out of the box - I have never needed to adjust gamma, contrast & brightness on my Ti4200. Is it possible I have got a bad card and this is why I am having these problems, or is it normal with ATI cards to the user to have to adjust these settings (never owned ATI before). If of course this was the case, why would the omega drivers not allow you to set a profile for full screen mode in the colour control tab.
Really grateful for your views before I start trying to bang on Dell to send me a replacement card. I am in Hong Kong and dealing with Dell here in English is not the easiest of things.
Cheers
10-16-2004
08:51 PM
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You didn't really say anything about the monitor? Same one? New one?
If new one....Maybe you just need to adjust the brightness\contrast on it.?
If you got an LCD try to tilt it up a little bit....Works for me
10-17-2004
08:48 AM
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Thanks for the reply Kenmitch. Sorry I did not mention the monitor, yes it is new, came with the system - 9inch Flat Panel.
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10-17-2004 06:06 PMRe: New 8400 with X800se problems Options
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So it's a 19" LCD flat panel ? If so it will pretty much look washed out if you look head on or slightly down....But if you tilt it up just a little(as in slightly pointed up) it will look much better. I would just set all the video settings back to default and try the tilt first....You may have to play with the brightness and contrast on the monitor a little also.
Later,
Kenmitch
10-17-2004
06:43 PM
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Kenmitch, thanks again. After your last message, I connected my old 15" analog FP and the problem was immediately resolved so it is not the video card, but the panel itself.
In the ATI control centre, adjusting the gamma, brightness and contrast can basically resolve and high white "fog" appearance, but this leaves the games with a red hue about them which can only be reduced by playing with the red setting of flat panel colour controls. However, the games then look overly green and it is necessary to play with the settings for each game. With a DVI connection, it is not possible to adjust the panel's contrast, only the brightness and this does almost nothing.
I would have thought that the default video card settings and the panel colour/brightness settings should have given the correct picture on screen and all of this endless adjusting of the gamma, brightness, contrast and colour settings should not be necessary.
I have tried tilting the panel in all sorts of directions and this does not help at all. Are my expectations too high and should I just live with this issue and spend large amounts of time constantly adjusting the settings, or should I ask Dell to exchange the panel. What really had me going was when I used my old 15" FP, the picture was perfect. If this was just a slight problem with the angle of the panel, I would not worry, but the problem is severe.
Would installing the monitor driver make any difference as I don't think the driver is installed, but there is one on the resources CD and on the download site.
Thanks for your help
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Posted October 18th, 2004 22:00
Jag-68, thanks for your reply. Seems that this might just be the way things are with these 1905FPs. I have played with the ATI control panel settings further and created gamma, contrast & brightness settings for each of my games and that seems to have helped. The picture on some is still not as I would like it to be, but perhaps its just a case of getting used to different look/feel of these big screens. If yours is much the same, it seems pointless asking Dell to replace the panel as it is most likely not faulty!
Cheers
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Posted October 20th, 2004 12:00
Off topic, but I am interested in purchasing this monitor. How is the 20ms response time for the games you play? What about non-native resolutions for the games you play?
Thanks.
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Posted October 20th, 2004 13:00
I was somewhat concerned about the 20ms, but i haven't been able to see any bad blurring. I booted up Doom3 at 1280x1024, full detail and moved the mouse around very fast. It was a little blurry (but not streaking), frankly i think any monitor would have had a hard time with what i put it through. On regular game play, i haven't noticed any blurs, but again my experience with LCDS is nill, so i don't even know what to look for. I ran a 'blur test' program and there was nothing. I'm happy with it and i do some very heavy gaming (FPS, Flight sim, etc).
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Posted October 18th, 2004 14:00