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June 25th, 2001 19:00
Useless Windows Restore CD
I upgraded to Win 2000 (full). All is well. I Think, hey I got a spare WinMe license now, why not use it on an old system? Unfortunately this system is not a Dell, and this Restore CD with my paid copy of WinMe on it will not install because it recognises that the computer is not a Dell. Is there a workaround for this?
Jeez, I love that this board keeps track of the typos you make and announces to the world you've edited a post. I suppose it prevents someone from rewriting history:-)
Message Edited on 06/25/01 03:08PM by BattleZone
Jeez, I love that this board keeps track of the typos you make and announces to the world you've edited a post. I suppose it prevents someone from rewriting history:-)
Message Edited on 06/25/01 03:08PM by BattleZone
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Posted June 25th, 2001 21:00
Whole point is, you are'nt and never were supposed to run a version of Windoze on more than one machine with one license. It's called "pirating", at least to MS. The new XP will prevent this totally from being done, until of course some crackers figure out some code for it.
D.M.
Dell Dimension 8100 Series
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512MB PC-800 RDRAM
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64MB DDR Geforce2 Ultra
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NEC DV-5700A 12X DVD-ROM
Sony CRX-160E 12X8X32X CD-RW
250MB Iomega internal Zip drive
IEEE 1394 card
3Com 10MB PCI NIC
Klipsch Promedia v.2-400
Dell P991 FD 19 inch Trinitron
HP Scanjet 4300 Cse
Epson Stylus color 740
APC Back-UPS Office 500
Canon ZR25MC Digital Video Camcorder
Kodak DC-4800 Digital Camera 3.1MP (2)
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Posted June 25th, 2001 22:00
Perhaps you did not understand the first post. The Dell system with which WinMe came installed now is running Win2000 with a full license not just an upgrade. Since I paid for a license for WinMe I should also be able to deploy it to another system. In effect I have two full licenses 1 x WinMe and 1 x Win2000. This isn't pirating...just efficient use of my resources.
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Posted June 26th, 2001 01:00
That's not what is says in the EULA, but whatever...
...either way it is doodoo.
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Posted June 26th, 2001 02:00
Why is it "doodoo"?? If you go to work everyday for your boss, and at the end of your week your boss says, hey, I like your work, so I want you to do some overtime, but I won't pay you overtime wages......would that also be fair to you? Do you not think the programmers and employees of Microsoft deserve due compensation for thier products and work?
One copy of Windows means one copy installed on one machine......unless you have "bought" additional licenses for that particular piece of software. JUST like your boss "buying" your additional work in overtime. No difference.
D.M.
Dell Dimension 8100 Series
Pentium 4 Proc @ 1.4Ghz
512MB PC-800 RDRAM
40GB Ultra ATA-100 WD HD (7200RPM)
64MB DDR Geforce2 Ultra
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz
NEC DV-5700A 12X DVD-ROM
Sony CRX-160E 12X8X32X CD-RW
250MB Iomega internal Zip drive
IEEE 1394 card
3Com 10MB PCI NIC
Klipsch Promedia v.2-400
Dell P991 FD 19 inch Trinitron
HP Scanjet 4300 Cse
Epson Stylus color 740
APC Back-UPS Office 500
Canon ZR25MC Digital Video Camcorder
Kodak DC-4800 Digital Camera 3.1MP (2)
Windows Millennium
Adobe Photoshop 6.0597
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Posted June 26th, 2001 06:00
The problem is that when you buy a refrigerator, you can use it anywhere you want to.
When you buy a watch, you can use it anywhere you want to.
When you buy a car, you can drive it on any road you want to.
But you don't buy software; you buy a license to use it. And if you don't agree to use it exactly as the company that sells it specifies in the EULA, you can't install it, even if you paid $300 for it. No negotiations.
Software companies can do this to us because we let them.
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Posted June 26th, 2001 06:00
Software companies can do this to us because it is protected intellectual property. If you buy a book, that is copyrighted, it is also theoretically illegal to make photocopies of it and distribute it among your friends, thereby necessitating the need to only buy ONE book and therefor giving the author only ONE royalty for her/his hard earned income. You CANNOT photocopy or make clones out of refrigerators or cars. They are DURABLE goods, and are protected by thier very nature.
I hope someday some of the people who whine on about this issue spend years of THIER lives developing and creating an intellectual commodity to see thousands of cheapskates rip THEM off of thier due compensation. If software developers could not reap returns off thier products I doubt there would be very much good material out there. It's easy to complain about licensing when you don't depend on profits from your software products to be making the money you need to feed your kids with.
D.M.
Dell Dimension 8100 Series
Pentium 4 Proc @ 1.4Ghz
512MB PC-800 RDRAM
40GB Ultra ATA-100 WD HD (7200RPM)
64MB DDR Geforce2 Ultra
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz
NEC DV-5700A 12X DVD-ROM
Sony CRX-160E 12X8X32X CD-RW
250MB Iomega internal Zip drive
IEEE 1394 card
3Com 10MB PCI NIC
Klipsch Promedia v.2-400
Dell P991 FD 19 inch Trinitron
HP Scanjet 4300 Cse
Epson Stylus color 740
APC Back-UPS Office 500
Canon ZR25MC Digital Video Camcorder
Kodak DC-4800 Digital Camera 3.1MP (2)
Windows Millennium
Adobe Photoshop 6.0
D.M.
Dell Dimension 8100 Series
Pentium 4 Proc @ 1.4Ghz
512MB PC-800 RDRAM
40GB Ultra ATA-100 WD HD (7200RPM)
64MB DDR Geforce2 Ultra
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz
NEC DV-5700A 12X DVD-ROM
Sony CRX-160E 12X8X32X CD-RW
250MB Iomega internal Zip drive
IEEE 1394 card
3Com 10MB PCI NIC
Klipsch Promedia v.2-400
Dell P991 FD 19 inch Trinitron
HP Scanjet 4300 Cse
Epson Stylus color 740
APC Back-UPS Office 500
Canon ZR25MC Digital Video Camcorder
Kodak DC-4800 Digital Camera 3.1MP (2)
Windows Millennium
Adobe Photoshop 6.0597
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Posted June 26th, 2001 07:00
Granted.....the post in question indeed sounded like they have a legitimate reason and motivation behind wanting to transfer a piece of software to another machine. But where is the line drawn? Could not anybody, including those who might have less than ethical reasons to want to transfer, use that as the reason?
I see the point of the other side though, and believe me, I am definitely NOT for the solution Microsoft has conjured for thier new XP release, basically because it will make "power users" experiences, who reformat and tinker constantly with thier boxes, a tad bit frustrating. But I also see an absolute need to protect those who make a living from writing the software we all use and want. Basically, if you don't like it, then don't use it. Linux is open-source. ;-)
Thankyou for your reply.
D.M.
Dell Dimension 8100 Series
Pentium 4 Proc @ 1.4Ghz
512MB PC-800 RDRAM
40GB Ultra ATA-100 WD HD (7200RPM)
64MB DDR Geforce2 Ultra
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz
NEC DV-5700A 12X DVD-ROM
Sony CRX-160E 12X8X32X CD-RW
250MB Iomega internal Zip drive
IEEE 1394 card
3Com 10MB PCI NIC
Klipsch Promedia v.2-400
Dell P991 FD 19 inch Trinitron
HP Scanjet 4300 Cse
Epson Stylus color 740
APC Back-UPS Office 500
Canon ZR25MC Digital Video Camcorder
Kodak DC-4800 Digital Camera 3.1MP (2)
Windows Millennium
Adobe Photoshop 6.0
Message Edited on 06/26/01 12:41AM by gargoyle13
Message Edited on 06/26/01 12:43AM by gargoyle13597
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Posted June 26th, 2001 07:00
Yes, I can can empathize with this point of view, too. I used to be a free-lance writer. At that time, I was at the mercy of magazine publisher boiler plate giving the publisher all rights in perpetuity to my work. Ironically, I find the Microsoft EULA equally uncompromising.
No, I don't condone software piracy. But I believe the post in question was by a person who no longer needed a piece of software on one computer and wanted to use it on another. I don't see this as unreasonable, but the OEM status of the software certainly complicates things.
Regarding Microsoft, I have a love/hate relationship. I have no doubt that without the standardization Windows has wrought, the computerization of the world would be years behind where it it.
In the past, companies with superior innovation and marketing, having gained market dominance, have tried to stall technology at a point that would maximize their profits. I hope this doesn't happen to Microsoft.
Message Edited on 06/26/01 03:32AM by nilo578
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Posted June 26th, 2001 10:00
I think he is making the point it is not any machine right now and wants to put it on machine only. The machine of his choice. I think he could call Microsoft and get an Id by explaining the situation and could fib a bit by saying he modified his Mother Board. That is if you want to stay on a long distance line and possibly pay MS for the information.
I am staying with 98SE as my OS for this very reason. Iam staying with Office 97 for this very reason.
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Posted June 25th, 2001 19:00
This is how Microsoft guarantees that you have purchased an original copy and not just "borrowed" it from someone else.
Joe