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September 22nd, 2006 15:00

Stil considering an XPS 700

Hi folks, I've been lurking and reading a lot of the posts here, it's really too bad Dell has not been clearer about the capabilities of the XPS 700. The reason I'm posting is even with all of the negative posts I'm still considering purchasing the XPS 700 for a couple of reasons. First I've had 3 Dell PC's, none of which I have had any problems with, actually one did have a hard drive that failed but Dell sent out a new one in just two days so I thought that was pretty good service. Secondly I really like the looks of the XPS 700, it doesn't look like the run of the mill plastic case, it at least looks "high end" and built very solid. Also it still costs less than competing gaming PC's from companies like Alienware, Alienware doesn't exactly have a great reputation for quality itself, check reselleratings.com.
My question is, the upgrade issues aside, are you happy with the build quality of your XPS 700? I realize some of you are so angry you might not be able to answer this without thinking of the legitimate issues at hand but I'm going into this with my eyes wide open thanks to this forum.
  • pointguard1122

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    Posted September 22nd, 2006 15:00

    If you are looking for a right now computer and you do not want to use a 64 bit operating system, 800mhz RAM, or plan to upgrade, this is a great system.  I am very happy with the current speed and graphics quality.  It runs very, very cool and it quiet while idle.  I would recommend a Raptor hard drive becuase the 250 that came with mine was VERY slow.  Just do not expect this to be very upgradable.  The motherboard is supposed to be replacable, but it is not.  If you want to spend a couple of thousand for a computer that will be out dated in a few months, it is a nice system.  If you are going to look more longterm, you will want to buy a nice ATX case and the Asus motherboard that is coming out soon with the full 590 chipset.  It just depends on how long you want the life of your computer for.  Also, if what GB says if correct, the XPS 710 will be out in a few weeks and the XPS 800 is early next year.  If tradition holds true, Dell will not support the system once it is no longer for sale.  Just look at how the XPS 600 owner are puting up with.  They purchased their systems just a few months ago and are now ingored by Dell saying the life of their system is over.  That will be us soon.
  • charlesc111

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    Posted September 22nd, 2006 16:00

    there will always be something coming worth waiting for in a few months...
     
    before it was the conroe, now its quad core?
     
     

    Message Edited by charlesc111 on 09-22-2006 01:59 PM

  • Skully79

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    Posted September 22nd, 2006 16:00

    To be honest I don't think it is even a smart option for anyone to be looking at purchasing a new XPS 700 right now as the Quad core processor is going to be coming out in next few months not to mention 800 Mhz RAM which is silly to buy a system that has maxed out before its time. If you buy this computer it will work no doubt... It just doesen't make any sense is all.

    For this kind of money I would be hard pressed to have anyone tell me they MUST have the computer right now when the XPS 700 was shipped already outdated and with new technology so close.... just wait

    Message Edited by Skully79 on 09-22-2006 11:49 AM

  • krdomingue

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    Posted September 22nd, 2006 17:00



    @Skully79 wrote:
    To be honest I don't think it is even a smart option for anyone to be looking at purchasing a new XPS 700 right now as the Quad core processor is going to be coming out in next few months not to mention 800 Mhz RAM which is silly to buy a system that has maxed out before its time. If you buy this computer it will work no doubt... It just doesen't make any sense is all.

    For this kind of money I would be hard pressed to have anyone tell me they MUST have the computer right now when the XPS 700 was shipped already outdated and with new technology so close.... just wait

    Message Edited by Skully79 on 09-22-2006 11:49 AM





    There is always something new around the corner. At some point you just have to pull the trigger and be happy with what you have. My son has a 60 GB ipod that is only 8 months old and now he is bucking for the new 80 GB one. (Which he won't get.) I expect this computer to more than meet my needs for the next 4 to 5 years and then I will beg and plead until my wife lets me replace it. I expect to do some upgrading as the years pass, but I know at some point the upgrades will not be able to keep up with what I need/want. When the quad cores come out and it looks like they can be added to my pc, I will consider it, if they can't then so be it.

    So far, I love the XPS 700. It has more than met my expectations.
  • DELL-Chris M

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    Posted September 22nd, 2006 18:00

    strikezone100,

    My home PC is the XPS Generation 1, purchased on 5/16/2003. The only upgrade I have done was installing the Radeon X850XT video card. I can play all games on the market at medium high settings and get respectable frame rates (45FPS to 60FPS). I still do not feel the need to get a new PC. What I am trying to say is the XPS 700 is a great PC. You should not need to upgrade any of the hardware for years to come, unless the PC game creators make a huge leap in their requirements. Just my opionion.


    DELL-Chris M (old account)

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    Posted September 22nd, 2006 19:00

    While its true there are always new technologies on the horizon that could keep you guessing, you should base you decision on a 2 year life span.
    Will you be able to upgrade in 2 years?
    Or, will you have to buy a new system completly?

    The XPS 600 was mistake for many because the the upgrade path was pratically restricted to a CPU upgrade to the Prescot 965. That upgrade limit was reached in less than a year.
    After that.....nothing. Not many possiblities. Of course Dell "could" change that but they won't, cuz they don't CARE.

    The XPS 700 is a little better.
    You have new C2D chip that it supports, and I imagine that Intel will keep improving upon this chip for quite some time regardless of the new quads coming out.
    The Video upgradability seems to be pretty good as well. Probably run everything until the DX 10 cards start making there way into mainstream. Even then, without the software support from Developers, DX 10 is still probably 2 to 3 off before it becomes a mainstream API.

    I would say the XPS 700 has 2 years (if you purchased the 7900GS and the E6600) because you can upgrade to the newer 7950GTX or better and the E6800 or better in a year or so to improve your rig.
    If you bought your 700 maxed out, then your upgrade path and years of use will be smaller.
    After that, i'm afraid your out of options.

    Your best bet?

    Take your credit card and jump online to newegg or another good site and buy the best parts FOR LESS money.

    Don't let a pretty case fool you.

    I've seen guys (including myself) build systems that would destroy the XPS 700 and built them out of old milk cartons. Of course you wouldn't do that but the point is, the case means nothing if the insides aren't what you want.

    If i were you, and you already have the money (no loans or credit) buy the componets yourself and build it yourself.

    Unfortunantly what i see alot of is that people are buying Dells (and other OEM systems) because they can buy it on credit, where as buying a system yourself from a parts dealer means you need all the money up front.

    Its alot of money brother, don't give it to Dell cuz I assure you, one day that purchase will smack you right in the face.

    Unless of course Dell changes and offers support where and when it can.
    hehehehehehehe......that was good one eh?
  • leftty

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    Posted September 22nd, 2006 19:00

    Good point but what about those who have limited skills with computers? I think most people don’t know enough to know what parts to get, how to make them work or if the parts they are getting will all work together. Putting a computer together sounds easy but it can be difficult.

  • dwlovell

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    Posted September 22nd, 2006 20:00

    I have always previously built my own systems. Problem was that this time, I could get a Dell XPS 410 with all the same components for cheaper from Dell than I could separately. Combine that with a case/cooling design that is engineered to be more cool and silent and it was an easy choice. (If you want to get silent engineering in custom cases, you pay a HUGE premium). Of course some components I downgraded like memory, video and hard drive because I will buy those separately from newegg and install in the system, but again, overall it was still cheaper with the XPS 410 route. Now that I have received it, I know I made the right solution because the case is absolutely silent and cool, it looks great on my desk and meets my needs.
     
    I do think the 800$+ extra cost on the XPS 700 from the 410 seems excessive for the same parts, so between a custom build and XPS 700, it may be a better deal to build yourself, but if non-sli board is fine, I think is a great configuration from dell.
     
    -David
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    Posted September 22nd, 2006 20:00



    DELL-ChrisM wrote:
    strikezone100,

    My home PC is the XPS Generation 1, purchased on 5/16/2003. The only upgrade I have done was installing the Radeon X850XT video card. I can play all games on the market at medium high settings and get respectable frame rates (45FPS to 60FPS). I still do not feel the need to get a new PC. What I am trying to say is the XPS 700 is a great PC. You should not need to upgrade any of the hardware for years to come, unless the PC game creators make a huge leap in their requirements. Just my opionion.

    Translation:
     
    You'll be happy with the XPS 700 as long as you don't want to upgrade it down the road, because you won't be able to.
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    Posted September 22nd, 2006 20:00

    I appreciate all the replies and the great information! I'm not going to wait, the Core 2 Duo processor is teriffic and I'll be very happy with it. Thanks again!