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Question for the guru's... what is the optimum setup for DVD burning...

I have a dimension 8400 3.6 ghz with 2-160 ghz Seagate Sata Hardrives in RAID 0 configuaration...
 
I had 1 Plextor 716A DVD Burner and the OEM DVD player... I used to be able to burn a copy of my DVD in about 15 minutes... 
 
A friend gave me a second Plextor 716A DVD Burner (exactly the same as the one I already had installed), now it takes me almost an hour to burn a copy... doesn't make any sense..
 
What is the optimum setup for burning DVD's...
 
Question #1 - Should the lower dvd burner be set to master and the top be set to slave? or vice versa? or should they both be set on Cable Select? 
 
Question #2 - Does it make a diference having 2 DVD burners?..
 
Question #3 - If I need to rollback and replace on the the DVD burners with a DVD reader... which reader would you recommend? and then which setting should be used (Master, Slave, Cable Select)? and which one on top?
 
Thanks for any help or insight you are willing to share...
 
Grant
  • Skybird

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    Posted July 2nd, 2005 18:00

    Before you make any changes, check that both drives are set to DMA mode instead of
    PIO mode.  Check as here ........
     
     
    1.  Set both drives to Cable Select.  The drive on the end of the IDE cable will be
       the Master and the drive on the middle of the IDE cable will be the Slave.

    2.  You can run two DVD burners.  However, some newer games may not load from a
       writing drive.

    3.  If you return to a DVD Burner with a DVD-ROM, set both to Cable Select and
       place the DVD burner on the end of the IDE cable (Master) and the DVD-ROM to
       the middle of the IDE cable (Slave).
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

     

    Message Edited by Skybird on 07-02-200501:33 PM

    Message Edited by Skybird on 07-02-2005 01:33 PM

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    Posted July 2nd, 2005 21:00

    Unfortunately, there are drives that do a great job of burning, but a not so great job of ripping.  I'm not that familiar with the 716, but my NEC is that way.  I get faster, better quality burns, using a cheap reader as the source drive.  Even then, I can't get what I consider to be a quality burn in less that 35 minutes.

    Message Edited by crossman1 on 07-02-2005 05:19 PM

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    Posted July 3rd, 2005 20:00




    Hi Grant,

    The Plextor 716 are excellent drives and the issue is more than likely as Mike (Skybird) mentioned, check the mode. Also enter the BIOS and verify that the IDE channel is set to Auto and that both Drives are on.


    Best Regards




    God, grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway,
    the good fortune to run into the ones I do
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    Posted July 4th, 2005 15:00

    I suppose it's simply a matter of personal preference.  My 716 is a terrific drive, but it rips slowly.  Speed isn't that important to me anyway so it isn't a problem.  I get the best results by ripping with a reader only (DDU-1615) and burning with the 716. 

    I use a NEC 3520 as well.  It rips slowly too, but there is firmware out there that will remove the riplock feature and will really increase the rip rates, however, read errors increase tremendously so I'm not sure it's worth it.

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    Posted July 4th, 2005 15:00




    Ed,

    I dare say the read errors would far out weigh the increase in rip speed and I too have found out most DVD-ROM do a better job than DVD/RW, even some "old fashion" (lol) CD/RW drives...(when talking about audio CD`s..cannot discuss ripping DVD`s)


    Best Regards




    God, grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway,
    the good fortune to run into the ones I do
    and the eyesight to tell the difference.



    CD/RW Link

    Message Edited by Predator on 07-04-2005 12:13 PM

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    Posted July 5th, 2005 12:00

    Okay here is what I did... I followed the advice... I changed both drives to cable select... confirmed the DMA settings (already defaulted to DMA).. it seemed to speed up soomewhat.. but because I still was not happy... I reformatted the Hard Drive... (had to use an external floppy to reboot).. reinstalled XP Pro... updated the BIOS... reinstalled in order ... the chipset, the sound card, and the network drivers (rebooting each time just be be safe)... the remaining drivers auto installed.. then I downloaded the latest firmware from Plextor and was careful to patch BOTH drives... the downloaded my favorite FREE software and then lastly installed NERO.... the results.... using 16X media..
     
    DVD copy - 18 Minutes to decrypt and burn.
     
    copy dvd to dvd... 6 minutes...
     
    Now that is what I expected.... I am guessing but there was some conflict with another software program..
     
     
    Thanks for the great advice... this message board never ceases to amaze me... you guys always have the answers... Thanks again.
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    Posted July 5th, 2005 13:00

    Glad to hear the good news.  Thanks for posting back.  Best regards.
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    Posted July 5th, 2005 17:00

    Wow, those are impressive speeds. Good job!!