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May 25th, 2006 19:00

New Thread for 2007WFP banding issue discussions

It seems the original thread to discuss this has been shut down.
 
If you didn't see it, Chris M. has posted a new message.  Anyone care to evaluate what it means?  I.e. banding in modes besides desktop??
 
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Sorry for the long wait. We do have a fix in place. Dell has a firmware update that adjusts the ACC (Adaptive Color and Contrast) & ACM (Active Color Management) features, eliminating the banding issue when using the Desktop mode. All of these monitors have three display modes: Desktop, Multimedia and Gaming. The firmware turns off Faroudja video processing in Desktop mode. It remains enabled in the other two modes. Essentially, the updated firmware allows users to choose whether they want the Faroudja video processing feature on or off. I understand your time is valuable. I will private message all of you with details in the next day or two. Please update your forum profile.

Message Edited by shamusss_2000 on 05-25-200603:29 PM

Message Edited by shamusss_2000 on 05-25-200603:29 PM

  • vric

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    Posted May 25th, 2006 19:00

    this is strange. How the  Faroudja video processing could cause banding ? And from this post, he admit that there is still banding in Multimedia and Gaming mode.
     
    What is the drawback of not using  Faroudja processor ? I guess the quality and refresh time could be hurt quite badly... If so, you provide a fix for everyday use, but not game/movie..

    Message Edited by vric on 05-25-200603:54 PM

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    Posted May 25th, 2006 19:00

    What do you mean by update your profiles? Put a service tag in my profile? does my monitor even have a service tag? I can't seem to find it
  • chsph04

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    Posted May 25th, 2006 19:00

    Is it possible to get the full refund of the monitor even though you got it through one of the special offers in purchasing a XPS gaming computer. This fix makes it sound like it'll be worse off in desktop mode with the one feature turned off, and remains to change nothing in the other two modes.

    Message Edited by chsph04 on 05-25-200603:59 PM

    Message Edited by chsph04 on 05-25-200604:02 PM

  • Savoire

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    Posted May 25th, 2006 19:00

    I would like to hear from Chris about the firmware being implemented on shipping monitors as of now. I'm actually waiting on this to place an order, but here in Canada, a deal ends tonight.

    Also, does this firmware update concerns only the 2007WFP or also the 2007FP which have been reported many times in the other thread to exhibit the same banding problem?

    Thanks Chris in advance and for all that you've already done.
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    Posted May 25th, 2006 19:00

    Personally, I understand his statement to infer the banding will be present in the other two modes.  How can you fully use all of the capabilities of the monitor if banding is present in two of the three modes?  Basically, two of the three modes are worthless since you can see the banding during the cinematics of games, the menus of movies, or whenever a gradient is present.
     
    I need to be added to the list to learn how I can receive this updated firmware quickly.  If the results are unsatisfactory to me personally, the monitor will go back and I will pay the extra money for the NEC.
     
    Why are we being contacted by IM to be told how to receive it?  Why not just post the details in the forum?  I am not trying to instigate trouble, it just seems odd the way this is being handled.  Chris, this isn't an attack on you in anyway.  I truly appreciate all of the time and effort that you have spent on this matter over the last few days on our behalf.  You have gone above and beyond the call of duty.
     
    Thanks,
     
    Dankie
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    Posted May 25th, 2006 19:00



    @vric wrote:


    @Savoire wrote:
    I would like to hear from Chris about the firmware being implemented on shipping monitors as of now. I'm actually waiting on this to place an order, but here in Canada, a deal ends tonight.


    Don't worry, it's not even a "deal". The 2007wfp was $429 and the 2007fp was $399 less than 1 month ago on Dell Canada. The current price($509) is the regular "discount".. don't be fooled.. Wait for it..
    You should visit redflagdeals.com to be aware of Dell Deals..

    Also, the 2007fp have changed the S-IPS panel for a cheaper one.. So the firmware won't help the fact of having a cheaper quality panel.

    Message Edited by vric on 05-25-200603:48 PM






    Hey vric,

    Yes I'm aware of the fact that the 2007FP are now shipping with a Samsung S-MVA panel. But doing some little search, I found out it's the same that is used in a Samsung 204T which is surprisingly well rated when it comes to image quality and viewing angle when compared with other S-IPS panels.

    The fact is that I am running a multimonitor setup and plan on having a 4:3 panel (the 2007FP) for standard aspect ratio stuff, and the secondary would be a 2007WFP for pretty much anything else. I know the deals are coming back often, but right now one of my old CRT Trinitron let me down and I kindda have to order soon sadly.
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    Posted May 25th, 2006 19:00

    Will orders put in from now on get the already-corrected version of it?
  • doctrine

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    Posted May 25th, 2006 19:00

    Is this firmware effect your desktop mode quility??
    for me, I use desktop mode to play game, watch movie and do all the work.
    Are there big diff between these 3 modes??
    how many users use gaming mode when playing games?
    BTW , please add me to the list of getting the firmware too.
    Thanks.
     
  • vric

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    Posted May 25th, 2006 19:00



    @Savoire wrote:
    I would like to hear from Chris about the firmware being implemented on shipping monitors as of now. I'm actually waiting on this to place an order, but here in Canada, a deal ends tonight.


     
     
    Don't worry, it's not even a "deal". The 2007wfp was $429 and the 2007fp was $399 less than 1 month ago on Dell Canada. The current price($509) is the regular "discount".. don't be fooled.. Wait for it..
    You should visit redflagdeals.com to be aware of Dell Deals..

    Also, the 2007fp have changed the S-IPS panel for a cheaper one.. So the firmware won't help the fact of having a cheaper quality panel.

    Message Edited by vric on 05-25-200603:48 PM

    Message Edited by vric on 05-25-200603:53 PM

  • shadowgyz

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    Posted May 25th, 2006 19:00

    Chris M -- I too must be added to the list for the 2007WFP Firmware fix (if I wasn't on it already). In the closed thread, I posted that I already purchased a 2007WFP, I was just waiting for it to arrive. It arrived yesterday, banding and all (both on VGA/DVI, manufactured May 06).

    I agree with Dankie though; wouldn't it be more logical to just post a fix on the main Dell support site, rather than PMing all users that have all reported the banding? Don't get me wrong, I appreciate all the work and the promptness of the reply from Dell. But it just seems too much of a hassle to compile a list of all users with the banding problem.