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January 19th, 2008 15:00

Need Windows 98 driver for E153 (will 157 driver work) or do you have other suggestions?

Hi,
 
I am looking for a windows 98/win98se  driver for an E153fp.
 
Dell has one for an E157.
 
The two links in this thread:
 
do not show either the 153 or the 157.
 
Would they be similar monitors so that I could use the 157 driver?
 
Or do you have other suggestions for a source?
 
Thank you.
  • gpro

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    Posted January 19th, 2008 21:00

    You didn't respond to my question in the other thread - Why do you need the driver?

    If the problem is you are unable to display the desired resolution, then the solution may be to update the graphics card driver.
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    Posted January 20th, 2008 03:00

    I'm looking for help and not harassment. I started a new thread to indicate that I had done some looking already on the site and in the hopes that I could get a helpful response. I chose this site as a first choice because they are Dell products and I thought I might find someone with an answer to my question.
     
    What it looks to me like is that you "own" this forum and with your response I wont get any others, so it looks like I''ll have to come up with some other way to get help.
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    Posted January 20th, 2008 05:00

    I was trying to help. I explained the reason for asking in the post above. I even tried to find a driver for you.

    To my knowledge, this forum does not operate like the HijackThis forum - there is no "ownership" of threads, or indeed the forum ;).

    Anyone else is welcome to chime in.
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    Posted January 20th, 2008 10:00

    bluecoal,
     
    A question is simply a quest for information. qpro's reply seemed to be no more then that in an attempt to help you. If you think this is harassment. You might have a problem getting a solution anywhere. Your reply sound like you are saying:
    "You can't ask me any question, just answer mine!!"
     
    gpro has been very helpful to many, and a more civil approach might bring a better response from him and others.
     
    Hope you find a driver
    Robert
     
    Edit: I tried to find a dell driver several years ago for my UltraSharp. My thinking was that it might provide additional functionality or features over the OS plug and play driver. It didn't! So this question could be relevant.


    Message Edited by In Kansas on 01-20-2008 07:31 AM
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    Posted January 22nd, 2008 14:00

    gpro

    I did not answer your question in the other thread because I felt it was supercilious. The answer is like “duh, I want to use the monitor”. Your response seems to me to imply that I don’t need one (a driver) and have no business asking for it. If I agreed with that point of view, I would not have been here asking in the first place.

    Robert raises a valid point about the native os driver, which I did consider. I do not know much about drivers. I do know that crt and lcd monitors work differently and I did not want to ruin the lcd monitor so I wanted the proper manufacturers hardware support/drivers for them.

    As far as I know, I do not need graphics card drivers. If I thought I did, I would have asked about them. The possible modes of the E153 are so limited that most cards, even in the older hardware that I have, should support them. Also, that seems to me to be a dangerous piece of advice. In the past in setting up a computer, I have seen messages somewhere in the process to the effect that a video card may provide modes that your monitor may not support and you will damage your monitor if you use them. I am not looking to obtain high resolutions beyond the capacity of the monitor. I am just looking to get the best video presentation possible within the manufacturers design and specification to reduce all the visual problems and eyestrain that come with flat panel monitors.

    Robert,

    What I said to gpro.

    Re questions: I had a specific objective in mind. In responding to that question, there is a significant difference between a question like “Why do you need one?” and “Have you considered the drivers in the operating system?”

    Re “anywhere”. I do have other places I can go to ask questions, and sometimes contribute. I can, not always, but usually, get answers. And possibly dangerous advice is usually flagged or caveated in some way. I chose to come here because I have seen good Dell specific advice in other spots and I had a Dell specific question I needed help with. I also hesitated in posting here as opposed to a more general hardware forum, but decided to play by the rules. It has been my general experience that posting in specific subset hardware forums sometimes eliminates valuable input from very knowledgeable generalists because they don’t wade through all the hardware subset forums on their site. If I could have predicted these responses to my request when I started, I would have asked in  a different place, either here or on another site, I’m not sure which.

    Back to the thread subject – Dell drivers for the E153fp monitor.

    1)     I think I have solved my problem – I was allowed to do some hunting at the place I got the monitor and I found a Dell CD that includes comments for Win98 and ME in the operator instructions, so I have to assume the driver file will be ok for Win98.

    2)     For someone that does not have that luxury, it also looks like it is possible that the R76072 driver on the Dell site will work with Win98. I can’t guarantee that and using it would be at a users risk. Here’s the information that I have, you can draw your own conclusions:

    My Dell CD is dated Nov04. It includes these files: e153fp.cat 03/05/04  06:41 and E153FP.inf 02/18/04  13:15

    R76072.exe unzips to include these two files e153fp.cat 03/04/04  22:41 and E153FP.inf 02/18/04  05:15

    Microsoft dropped support for Windows 98 in July 2006 (after the CD was made, but before the current download date from the Dell site).

    I also see some download sites showing the R76072.exe as a Win95,98,ME driver in addition to XP and 2000. Whether this comes from testing or wishful thinking I can’t say.

    I hope this will be useful to someone else sometime.

    Regards.

    bc

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    Posted January 22nd, 2008 16:00

    bluecoal,
     
    Your points are well taken, and understood. I particularly agreed with the " eliminates valuable input from very knowledgeable generalists". I am glad you found a possible solution:smileywink:. Let us know if it works out, ... OK?
     
    Perhaps we can help each other out in the future. And welcome to this board. There is usually little contention among the distinguished panel.
     
    Robert