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eugenebykov
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June 5th, 2003 21:00
8300 startup problem
Hi,
I have Canon MultiPass F20 printer connected to my Dimension 8300 computer via USB port.
On the BIOS startup process if the printer is turned on, the system is just freezes and cannot continue to boot. It even cannot go to the system configuration (F2). Diagnostic lights at the back show the following: A,B are green; C,D are orange.
If the printer is off or disconnected the boot is absolutely normal.
If printer is switched on or connected to already booted system it is working just fine without any problems.
I didn't have this problem with this printer on my old computer.
Trying to find workaround of this printer problem I tried to connect it to different ports, change cables and connect it via a USB Hub. Nothing of this helped
Thanks
P.S. I have A01 BIOS installed.
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BaldEaglePride
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Posted June 6th, 2003 01:00
Hello eugenebykov -
I have a similar problem with my Dimension XPS and an HP printer. Apparently, this sort of problem is common, and not just among Dell machines from what I've heard.
Apparently, the USB connection is drawing too much power. You might notice that when the computer freezes at bootup, if you turn the printer off, the boot process will 'magically' continue.
I was told to try a powered USB hub, but that unfortunately did not work for me.
The only thing that worked was to turn off USB Emulation in the BIOS (a recommendation I received from this forum). This is a give and take, because if you do this and you have a USB keyboard or mouse, they will not function until Windows loads. Which means, you would need to attach a PS2 keyboard if you needed to get into the BIOS.
So, I opted to simply not have my printer turned on when I boot. Of course, I rarely use it. This may not be the case for you.
I know it's not really a solution, but I thought I'd share ...
eugenebykov
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Posted June 6th, 2003 01:00
Hi Greenwood,
Thank you for your reply, but the printer itself is working fine. I have no problems with it under Windows.
The only problem I have the computer is freezes on BIOS startup when printer is connected to a USB port.
If I connect it later (after it passed BIOS) everything is fine.Thanks.
eugenebykov
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Posted June 6th, 2003 04:00
Hi BaldEaglePride,
Connecting the printer via USB Hub didn’t help me either, but the problem seems to go away when I turned the USB Emulation option OFF. The computer is booting with connected printer without any problems and since I use by keyboard in PS/2 mode anyway this option should work for me.
Thank you very much for the suggestion!
eugenebykov
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Posted June 6th, 2003 04:00
Hi Greenwood,
I already have the latest version of BIOS (A01) installed, so it looks like this problem has nothing to do with the BIOS update.jabbermacy
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Posted June 6th, 2003 10:00
Just got a new 8300 and it has the SAME EXACT problem (with USB harddrive, so it's not 'just a printer problem')
Hey, Dell: WE NEED A BIOS UPDATE TO FIX THIS PROBLEM. It's SUPER ANNOYING!!-Friendlyname-
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Posted June 6th, 2003 19:00
Just to confirm your suspicions that it is an 8300 problem, this does not happen with my 8200, even with the USB emulation ON.
Good luck,
Jane
jabbermacy
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Posted June 6th, 2003 20:00
I really hate to say it, but my 8300 is pretty disappointing. My latest problem is I can't add another HD without ALL the drives dropping in speed to DMA2 or worse PIO!!!I have the same problem with my DELLl 8300 and a HP2210 printer. Dell says its HPs fault and HP says it's because of DELL.
This is the cause, I believe : During reboot, the DELL also boots on the USB port. If it doesn't get the appropiate answer back from the USB device it will remain stuck. Apparently Dell doesn't get the appropiate answer from several printers, that's why you have the problem.
Normally in such a case you should be able to deactivate the USB boot option on your computer, but unlike most BIOS devices and setups, DELL does not allow this on the 8300 BIOS. That's why I believe the solution should come from DELL.
Unfortenately I don't get any response from DELL other than try to see with HP if they can help. Very disappointing

Greenwood
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Posted June 6th, 2003 00:00
Items to try: 1st - uninstall your printer, making sure the drivers and folders created by the installation have been completely removed.
2nd - go to the Cannon web site and download the latest drivers, making sure they are compatible with Windows XP (some are not).
3d - IF and only IF you have found XP compatible drivers, reinstall the printer following the directions exactly. Most USB printers require you to install the software PRIOR to hooking up the printer. If you hook up the printer first in these cases, you will need to go back to step one as you will have created the same problem once again.